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Same reason they have expensive university, extremely expensive healthcare, for profit prisons, etc, I guess. There's a dog-eat-dog mentality over there which is quite puzzling to us Europeans.
> mentality individualism; I think people in our crazy state of states tend to be only interested in what they want, and no other interests
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Most wealthy people in CA don't send their kid to private school. That's a rarity even among the wealthy. There are plenty of good public schools in CA. There are only a handful of good private ones.
I am dating someone that has a child in private school. First grade costs $4k+ a month, maybe even 6k I forget. Nothing in the parking lot or talking even screams wealthy. Every person I've met in the social circle, also send their kids to private school in the SF bay area. I haven't even met another adult that sends their kids to public school. These are people that make $250k-$600k probably. But that's not "wealthy…
This is absolutely batshit to someone living in the midwest. I could save enough to retire in 5-7 years if I were making that much.
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This is why the wealthy should be required to use public schools.
The wealthy should not be required to go to public schools. They should be able to choose whatever schools they think is the best fit for their children. Same for everyone else.
South Korea started dabbling in free school lunches around 2001 - when a few schools started it. It gained momentum, and then it became a huge debate in 2011, when Seoul's mayor somehow decided he hated free lunches so much that he arranged a referendum, and said he would quit if people didn't agree with him on the matter. He did quit. Fast forward to 2025, and now free school lunches are nearly ubiquitous. Once peop…
In America even if we enacted this the kids would get meals that are terrible like 10$ chicken strips, hotdogs and fake pizza
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Again, just provide the kids themselves with decent (not stratified) meals, rather than tying it to parental responsibility or otherwise. It's like you're trying to make a mean society.
How are children in such situations supposed to get breakfast and dinner? I'm not arguing against universal school lunches here. I am arguing against the idea society should somehow be providing prepared meals, unless "society" includes "children's parents".
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My main intention in my argument was to convince you that moral hazard exists in current social welfare programs. Judging by your statements, you were already aware of this, but rely on discussion points that deny it exists. Starting off an argument with such a clearly untrue line of discussion sets up pretty poor grounds for an honest talk. That's all I intend for this. There's room for agreement on some other point…
Maybe let's go back to this thing you wrote: > It seems apparent to me that your attitude toward individual level accountability is one that denies agency of the individual and ascribes their moral failures as a result of societal-level problems. After all, there is no moral hazard when individuals have no moral agency to begin with. Yeah! I do think people are 99% defined by the systems and scenarios they exist in,…
If Hale County existed as an independent economy with no transfer payments to it, I wouldn't judge its population negatively. Or, if they were using the system of unemployment benefits as intended (as opposed to the system of disability benefits), then I wouldn't judge its population negatively. These systems were each established for their own purposes and twisting the intent of disability benefits to achieve personal gains is shameworthy. The fact that the people interviewed have to rationalize it is evidence that they are aware that what they are doing is shameworthy.
I think your arguments still are relying on misdirection around certain words- especially words that come with negative judgements against people that are suffering. i.e. the poor cannot act upon moral hazard, or the poor cannot be freeloaders. Well-intended moral judgements can still cast shame upon the poor- if you are poor, yet capable of working to improve your lot, and choose in the long term to rely on the involuntarily-given (taxed) aid of others, that is shameworthy. The preferable outcome would be to adapt, and to make your own way in life without taking from community resources. The whole community does better this way.
South Korea started dabbling in free school lunches around 2001 - when a few schools started it. It gained momentum, and then it became a huge debate in 2011, when Seoul's mayor somehow decided he hated free lunches so much that he arranged a referendum, and said he would quit if people didn't agree with him on the matter. He did quit. Fast forward to 2025, and now free school lunches are nearly ubiquitous. Once peop…
In America even if we enacted this the kids would get meals that are terrible like 10$ chicken strips, hotdogs and fake pizza
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The idea that there are no negatives to this social pressure to behave is hopelessly optimistic. Just in my direct environment are two elementary schoolers that despair of going to school (and one stopped entirely). It really kills me that kids come out of school looking like that.
compared to going to school in the US? lack of social pressure doesn't eliminate bullying for example. actually, bullying is a form of social pressure too. i do agree that social pressure is bad. pressure to conform is bad. conforming itself isn't. but the point really is that the social pressure in japan is actually just of a different form compared to the pressure that exists in the US. it is an illusion to think t…
My son here gets stressed out if he’s not brought a hairnet in the proper color for swimming lessons.
Never mind that there’s no requirement to wear a hairnet in my home country, the idea of requiring a specific color, or the teacher getting upset if it’s forgotten is bizarre.
Nonetheless, everyone thinks this is a major problem here, and so kids internalize that and perpetuate it.
In regards to the speaking up thing, I think a major component there is that it’s often considered a you problem. All these other kids go to school just fine, so the problem must be you.
On the off chance you're interested in school lunches I highly recommend watching videos of Japanese school lunches on YouTube. There's a bunch out there now and if you were raised in the American system it will probably blow your mind. The idea that lunches can be freshly made, on site, out of healthy ingredients and children are active participants in serving and cleaning up is just crazy. When I encountered it for…
On the off chance you're interested in school lunches I highly recommend watching videos of Japanese school lunches on YouTube. There's a bunch out there now and if you were raised in the American system it will probably blow your mind. The idea that lunches can be freshly made, on site, out of healthy ingredients and children are active participants in serving and cleaning up is just crazy. When I encountered it for…
I then transitioned to a typical American public school. I was disappointed to find my only option was cheap, factory made, mass produced, strangely flavored and textured food. This stark contrast and downgrade has made me forever passionate about the topic of improving school lunches.