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This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

If you are surprised this happens given Jan 6 events you have been living under a rock.

There is a good chance there will be no more fair elections in US.

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The level of naiveté in this discussion is absolutely astonishing to me. People are seeming to forget that dysfunctional states (totalitarian, facist, the like) all are sprung from one common thread: control of the mind through propaganda. We already have evidence that the CCP or otherwise is manipulating Tiktok's algorithm to influence American minds [1]. This was one study, by one relatively small and underpowered…

THANK YOU! you articulated it perfectly the issue is not that tiktok harvests user data, not free speech, not that China is refuses to let US counterparts operate in China - the issue is, TikTok is an insidious propaganda machine that influences our your people, and entire generation, to abandon their values and replace them with views favorable to the CCP daily, hourly, and each minute young people interact with Tik…

> young people who otherwise do not hold a negative opinion towards Israel suddenly became anti-Israel

You're not seriously blaming TikTok for anti-Israel sentiment?! Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the genocide being carried out by the apartheid state of Israel?

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This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

He’s also the guy that triggered all of this by signing a presidential order to change TikTok ownership during his first run. Does he have a coherent position on this that these actions support?

No, he does not.

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post #266

This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

He’s also the guy that triggered all of this by signing a presidential order to change TikTok ownership during his first run. Does he have a coherent position on this that these actions support?

To accumulate power for him and the people he likes

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This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

It might be surprising, but SCOTUS confirms it

They're just 9 clowns in robes these days

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What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it? Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?

It had to have been a PR move. The Tik Tok in-app notes for "shutting down" and "we're back" both referenced Trump by name. I doubt they would do that without his explicit consent. Trump beamed his name and heroics directly into the eyeballs of 50m people before he even took office. That wouldn't have happened without the brief blip going dark. Odds are good he said he'd pardon them (which is a whole different story)…

like your conspiracy theory, lots of entertainments in it.

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What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it? Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?

The goal was always to get TikTok divested of Chinese ownership, not to ban it. The ban was the stick and selling it for a lot of money was the carrot. ByteDance surprised almost everyone in choosing the stick.

> ByteDance surprised almost everyone in choosing the stick.

shortly after Trump tried to force bytedance to sell its shares during his first term, the Chinese government passed laws to include the recommendation systems used in social media into the export control list. bytedance thus won't be able to sell tiktok without approval from the chinese government.

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For the record -- the law for TikTok divestment was not passed on its own, but was instead included in the foreign aid (including Ukraine) package https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/23/tech/congress-tiktok-ban-... It is not clear if it would have passed if not that procedural trick... So one has to take this into account when considering 'bipartisan support' of the thing.

Congress has a limited amount of time and attention unfortunately, so omnibus bills are very common. That doesn’t invalidate the contained legislature.

I don’t agree with the widespread usage of such “tricks”, but I do understand the harsh reality and limitations of representative democracy.

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