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Not working for me, as I said in another comment, asking it to set it to 15% will set it to 20%.
that sucks that you're the only one in the world that it doesn't work for. sorry to hear that
Have you actually checked that "Set volume to 15%" will set it to 15% in the Alexa app?
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I already have that, it's my phone. I don't need a second device to respond to "Set a timer"
I do. If my phone's in my pocket, it won't hear. If it's in my bag, it won't hear. Or it sets the timer, but then a kid grabs my phone for something and leaves it upstairs were I won't hear it. There's something to be said for a voice-activated timer in your kitchen that is always in your kitchen and never leaves your kitchen.
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> how does the whole LLM market come to fruition? It replaces all the David Graeber "bullshit jobs". As well as about 90% of the education system. It's not replacing them with something better , but it is cheaper.
90% of our education system is really just watching over the kids/teenagers so they don't cause trouble while parents are at work. I don't see AI doing that.
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Is this not actually kind of powerful? Having linguists write up a bunch of rules seems a lot more predictable than "rolling a bunch of dice and hoping that some LLM spits out a coherent set of steps". It feels very fractal but on the other hand if Alexa has only a specific gamut of responses it's not exactly a limitless state space right? Very curious about how those rules look like though
The problem is it's completely undiscoverable. You can tell Alexa "play some music" because you're pretty sure one of these linguists added a rule for that. But can you tell it "play me a song that lasts longer than 5 minutes"? Doubtful. The only way to know is to try it. The problem is the space of possible commands is waaaaay bigger than the space of commands you can manually handle, which means if you just randoml…
I don't think even pre-LLM technology allows you to do this.
I can't do something as basic as goto Spotify's search page and filter "only genres I like", neither a smart version of that filter or a manual version of that filter is possible.
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So? You’re stuck with a warrantied product that you know has the same defect, unless they’ve changed things since last I saw it. What’s a two-year warranty on a product that breaks after three? The market is not fixing this particular issue. Sure you can choose another manufacturer next time but you’ve already been screwed by one. There was no need for that in the first place. Consumer laws are always a benefit!
I will almost always choose to buy a product if offered at a cheaper price if I can do so by declining longer warranties, so, no, it's not "always a benefit". It's not a fairy tale. Someone has to pay for things.
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>Again, no one buys things using only such an interface. I was talking about future possibilities, not the past. I would have thought that was clear from my comment. but maybe it was not worded clearly, or maybe you didn't get it. >I am middle aged and have never done, not even in pre-e-commerce times. you are not the same entity as everyone else. you are one, they are numerous. just the fact that you have never done…
> I was talking about future possibilities, not the past. Why would anyone want to do an audio-only interface? If there were a need or desire for it, it would have popped up somewhere else in society. It hasn't. > you are not the same entity as everyone else. you are one, they are numerous. OK, let me rephrase that. I've never heard of a single other person buying a single thing using an audio-only interface. It prob…
>Why would anyone want to do an audio-only interface? If there were a need or desire for it, it would have popped up somewhere else in society. It hasn't.
what utter rubbish you talk, dude.
you are talking repeatedly past me, that is, not directly addressing my replies, instead, you are going off at a tangent each time. that's not the way to conduct a rational argument. it's often seen as evading the point that the other person made (because you don't have a good answer for it), although it can also be just due to poor logic, and due to talking on the basis of emotion rather than reason.
as an example your illogic, to be precise, and referring to both of our points that I quoted just above:
I talked about the future possibilities, and yet you are continuing to harp on the fact that that innovation has not happened yet. does the fact that something has not happened yet, mean that it can never happened in the future? jay. eff. cee. did people think that mobile phones would happen before they happened? or computers? or cars? or fridges? or so many other modern inventions? maybe for some of those cases it was predicted, but not for all, damn sure of that. and I bet some of those at least were not needed or desired earlier. still they happened.
quoting one of your above points again, to make another very valid point:
>>Why would anyone want to do an audio-only interface? If there were a need or desire for it, it would have popped up somewhere else in society. It hasn't.
nonsense, on 2 counts:
1. so you think that if there's a need or desire for something in society, it will automatically "pop up"? by the grace of god, maybe?
2. you say it hasn't.
here is another hn user, NotMichaelBay, in this same subthread, who says that it already exists:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41077865
start of his comment (italics mine):
>That already exists too, but it's also poor UX because it processes your response slower than a person would, and it sometimes misunderstands what you're saying or asks you to repeat.
so he says that it already exists. I don't think he would be making it up. but to address his point about UX, I think his argument that it is poor UX may be wrong. however I have not replied to it yet and may not do it for some more hours, because I have other things to do too.
but in a nutshell:
voice recognition and voice processing technology has progressed in leaps and bounds. it is much better than it was a few years back. I used to be a skeptic about it then, but nowadays it is so good that I use it many times on a daily basis, including for voice typing these hn comments, at least partially. I just have to make a few edits to correct the mistakes that it makes. this is an example of a need and a desire (referring to your comment above), that I, at least, did not know about beforehand, but happily use once it is available. but it did not pop up in society just because I needed it or desired it. it happened because someone innovated it.
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>fewer insults I don't see where I used any insults in my earlier reply. saying biz 101, maybe? as for the rest, I can't really understand what you are saying, so I'll drop out of the discussion now.
If you didn't know calling someone naive is often perceived as an insult.
in any case, i had no intention of insulting you, sorry if you felt that way.
maybe I was talking in the same way as that architect described, possibly due to having picked up on that trend, after having worked in that company.
Throwaway here but I used to work in Alexa org at Amazon and was amazed by how big the org was (thousands and thousands of people) considering it doesn't seem to be a big revenue generator I remember constantly hearing about projects other teams were working on thinking "why would anyone use that" or "how would that ever make money" Just trying to shoehorn alexa into as many domains as possible It was like empire bui…
The original AI technology spamming: Alexa Integration
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You'd be incorrect. Amazon Music is not as valuable as people think, compounded by the fact that it helps foot the bill for Alexa. It's only right though, seeing as Music helped completely break Alexa internally. Repeatedly.
I only have Amazon Music because I’ve got some Alexa speakers, so not sure which way the causation is presented, but end result is I am Amazon’s MRR, however small that is. …that said, the Amazon Music app doesn’t have an option to cast to Alexa and that’s beyond dumb.
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don't get me wrong, it is silly, but also being able to set a timer without touching anything with your gross cooking hands is unironically a wonderful feature.
> gross cooking hands I cook a lot and totally get this feeling, but honestly your cooking hands probably aren't gross. And if they are you're probably doing something wrong, in which case some cooking classes will be both very enjoyable and eliminate the problem.