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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by braunboffel »

seltzered_ wrote: post #828
RossBencina wrote: post #607

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Good, but definitely not 60fps or ghosting free. Source: using one right now.

Modos is working on a 60fps e-ink monitor, no idea about ghosting improvements: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40423746 -> https://www.modos.tech/blog/modos-paper-monitor-pre-launch-o...

> Modos is working on a 60fps e-ink monitor

Fundamentally, my opinion is all these things trying to move electrophoretic ink fast are misguided. You end up using so much energy trying to move particles that are inherently designed to be bistable. If you want to play a video, you're better off using material physics that was intended to be fast from the start, not trying to force a material that's intended to be slow to fight itself.

Stuff like "We need 50,000 people interested in being a part of creating an open-hardware e-ink ecosystem". This seems like trying to drum up a kickstarter. The modos founder, Alex Soto, what's his track record? Googling seems to show him making ridiculous claims like "To make matters worse, the E Ink Corporation holds the patents for its e-ink technology and only licenses its technology to large manufacturers making availability or mass adoption difficult."

I would love to see him explain that in detail with concrete facts.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by xnx »

yencabulator wrote: post #241
xnx wrote: post #144

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I think this might be possible out of the box with Android apps like ScreenStream: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.dvkr.scre...

That seems to go in the other direction, show Android screen on browser.

Couldn't you cast your Android phone to the Daylight browser? I'm not super familiar with the area, but with the relative openness of Android, there should be other options.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by mattsnuts »

snypher wrote: post #326
sodality2 wrote: post #265

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One common psychological trick addictive social media uses is high saturation color, as it causes our monkey brains to enjoy it slightly more. This is monotone and I’d assume that’s a relevant feature point

I often use ctrl-win-c shortcut for black and white mode in Windows, it's great to rest the eyes.

Ah man about a year ago my windows went black and white and I didn’t know why and couldn’t figure it out, I must have pressed this. Had to reboot to fix it.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by mattsnuts »

rrr_oh_man wrote: post #565

All the best to you! Just one little thing: I think you're killing your conversions. The website is janky even on my M1 Macbook Air. Not sure the scroll hijacking stuff is really needed to get your point across either. (Check it yourself https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis?url=daylightcomputer.com )

Scrolls fine for me using Safari on my 7 year old iPhone X.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by coldtea »

card_zero wrote: post #816
ohmyiv wrote: post #553

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Hmmm..the way you're arguing against makes it seem like you're being manipulated. Maybe you have an issue too? If you don't want to use it then don't. I'm not even sure why you're in here arguing against it. > People often believe that "other people can be persuaded, but not me. I’m the smart one. It’s only those other people over there that can’t control their thought." https://www.wired.com/story/our-minds-have-bee…

> I'm not even sure why you're in here arguing against it. To recap, somebody mentioned addiction, to colors presumably, as a reason to prefer a monochrome display, and I thought that was ridiculous. So I said so. People didn't react well. I've read a little part of the article. I don't much like the giant tech and social media companies. However, when I come to phrases like this: > hijacking of the human mind > hook…

>To recap, somebody mentioned addiction, to colors presumably, as a reason to prefer a monochrome display, and I thought that was ridiculous.

Somebody mentioned addiction, not "to colors" but to regular content doomscrolling, smartphone overuse, and so on. And the idea was that a monochrome display of videos, social media apps, webpages, TikToks etc makes them less enticing (and thus helps with reducing their use).

This is not only far from ridiculous (then again, some find the idea of a round earth ridiculous too), but something that has both tried with reported success by tons of people, and also the subject of study:

True colors: Grayscale setting reduces screen time in college students

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03623319.2020.1...

Color me calm: Grayscale phone setting reduces anxiety and problematic smartphone use

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-021-02020-y

Suffering from problematic smartphone use? Why not use grayscale setting as an intervention! – An experimental study

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S245195882...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S245195882...

Billions spent in making content more addictive - including the use of color to drive emotion and provide dopamine hits.

>But yeah, moral panic, or maybe virtue signalling, or tribalism

Or

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by mptest »

pera wrote: post #582
yosito wrote: post #522

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Why not just buy a Mira Pro? https://onyxboox.com/boox_mirapro

Onyx is a GPL violator unfortunately: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23735962

Any update on that? There's a comment there that suggests a simple legal "you better not do that" letter is all it takes. Obviously, I am not a lawyer, but I was looking at Boox tablets

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by Aeolun »

anonzzzies wrote: post #488
Aeolun wrote: post #364

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I don’t think this is necessarily true. I use reMarkable almost purely because it’s not an android tablet.

I have a remarkable and a boox; I only use the boox in the end because it’s Android and I can actually do things on it…

That makes me wonder what your use case for it is. I use the reMarkable and the only time it didn’t do something I wanted was when I wanted more than 5 layers per image.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by dgellow »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Please consider a collaboration with Framework, so many people dreamed of having a paper-like laptop

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by dgellow »

freedomben wrote: post #726
mdp2021 wrote: post #581

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Consider if you really want B/W for coding. (E-Ink colour displays, Kaleido3 for speed, do not come in "large" size - if you do not consider the exceptional ~60'' made for showrooms.)

yeah, I tried that once and instantly realized the magnitude of information that is conveyed via color alone by syntax highlighting. Color is mandatory for me

You can convey most of that information via text/font decorations: bold, italic, underline, dot-underline, etc

It’s already something that can be done for people who have issues distinguishing colors

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