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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by jodrellblank »

wiz21c wrote: post #839

That woman's voice intonation is just scary .Not because it talks really well, but because it is always happy, optimistic, enthusiastic. And this echoes to what several of my employers idealized as a good employee. That's terrifying because those AI become what their master's think an engaging human should be. It's quite close to Bostondynamics di some years ago. what did they show ? You can hit a robot very hard whi…

Someone else in these comments linked a Unitree biped robot demo video, and that has both someone kicking it in the back and punching it in the chest with a boxing glove on to show that it doesn’t fall over. And nothing else - no neutral trip hazard, opening a door in its way, slippery floor surface, gust of wind - only physical assault from a larger humanoid.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by xfz »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #150

I found these videos quite hard to watch. There is a level of cringe that I found a bit unpleasant. It’s like some kind of uncanny valley of human interaction that I don’t get on nearly the same level with the text version.

Nauseating mode is the default, you'll have to pay extra for a tolerable personality. ;)

Seriously though, I'm sure it's an improvement but having used the existing voice chat I think they had a few things to address. (Perhaps 4o does in some cases).

- Unlike the text interface it asks questions to keep the conversation going. It feels odd when I already got the answer I wanted. Clarifying questions yes, pretending to be a buddy - I didn't say I was lonely, I just asked a question! It makes me feel pressured to continue.

- Too much waffle by far. Give me short answers, I am capable of asking follow up questions.

- Unable to cope with the mechanics of usual conversation. Pausing before adding more, interrupting, another person speaking.

- Only has a US accent, which is fine but not what I expect when Google and Alexa have used British English for many years.

Perhaps they've overblown the "personality" to mask some of these deficiencies?

Not saying it's easy to overcome all the above but I'd rather they just dial down the intonation in the meantime.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by vbezhenar »

chermanowicz wrote: post #721
freediver wrote: post #394

Impressed by the model so far. As far as independent testing goes, it is topping our leaderboard for chess puzzle solving by a wide margin now: https://github.com/kagisearch/llm-chess-puzzles?tab=readme-o...

On one hand, some of these results are impressive; on the other, the illegal moves count is alarming - it suggests no reasoning ability as there should never be an illegal move? I mean, how could a violation of a fairly basic game (from a rules perspective) be acceptable in assigning any 'outcome' to a model other than failure?

That's because LLM does not reason. For me, as a layman, that seems strange that they don't wire some kind of Prolog engine to fill the gap, (like they wired Python to fill the gap in arithmetic) but probably it's not that easy.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by maaaaattttt »

lm28469 wrote: post #855
maaaaattttt wrote: post #783

Now that I see this, here is my wish (I know there are security privacy concerns but let's pretend there are not there for this wish): An app that runs on my desktop and has access to my screen(s) when I work. At any time I can ask it something about what's on the screen, it can jump in and let me know if it thinks I made a mistake (think pair programming) or a suggestion (drafting a document). It can also quickly ta…

1984's telescreens aren't something you're supposed to wish for

You mean I can't wish for a brave new world?

Joking aside, I agree. It's too bad, though, that we know a thing (this or anything else even technological or not) that could be used for good and improving ourselves will almost always be diverted for something bad...

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by hackerlight »

doubloon wrote: post #851

Its great tech and i thought i wanted it but…. After talking to it for a few hours i got this really bizarre odd gut feeling of disturbance and discomfort, disconnection from reality. It reminds me of wearing VR goggles. Its not just the physical issues there is something psychologically disturbing about it. It wont even give itself a name. I honestly prefer Siri even though she is incompetent she is “honest” in her…

Audio hasn't been released yet

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by tiagod »

xcv123 wrote: post #702
erickhill wrote: post #413

I think it’s safe to say Siri and Alexa are officially dead. They look like dusty storefront mannequins next to Battlestar replicants at this point.

Siri runs locally on the device. It works with internet completely disabled (airplane mode). You can't run any LLM on a phone.

You can run a bunch of LLMs on a phone (such as llama), depending on which phone you have.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by naasking »

anon373839 wrote: post #733
plaidfuji wrote: post #717

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

> We’re moving toward a world where every job will be modeled After an OpenAI launch, I think it's important to take one's feelings about the future impact of the technology with a HUGE grain of salt. OpenAI are masters of hype. They have been generating hype for years now, yet the real-world impacts remain modest so far. Do you remember when they teased GPT-2 as "too dangerous" for public access? I do. Yet we now ha…

> They have been generating hype for years now, yet the real-world impacts remain modest so far.

I feel like everyone who makes this claim doesn't actually have any data to backup it up.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by can16358p »

Am I missing something?

I've picked GPT-4o model in ChatGPT app (I have the paid plan), started talking with the voice mode: both the responses are much slower than in the demo, and there is no way to interrupt the response naturally (I need to tap a button on screen to interrupt), and no way to open up camera and show around like the demo does.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by ponorin »

while everyone's focusing on audio capabilities (haven't heard them yet), i find it amusing that the official demo ("robot writer's block" in particular) of image generation can't even match the verbatim instruction, and the error's not even consistent between generations even as it should be aware of previous contexts. and this is their second generation of multimodal llm capable of generating images.

looks like llms still gonna llm for the near future.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by jerpint »

can16358p wrote: post #868

Am I missing something? I've picked GPT-4o model in ChatGPT app (I have the paid plan), started talking with the voice mode: both the responses are much slower than in the demo, and there is no way to interrupt the response naturally (I need to tap a button on screen to interrupt), and no way to open up camera and show around like the demo does.

I don’t think the app version is available
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