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Vision Pro: What we got wrong at Oculus that Apple got right

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The M series of chips? That was a major risk. AirPods/pro/max? They've taken major presence a space owned by Sony, Samsung and Bose. Apple Watch Ultra? Though it's thin and flat, The iPhone X was a huge leap in specs, contrary to the entire market analyst sentiment that people wanted cheaper phones. Apple made a big bet that people would want the opposite: more expensive phones, and they were right.

M series of chips is an arm processor, licensed by ARM and fabricated by TSMC. On top of that it is a processor. Did apple R&D invent the processor? No, they licensed an existing design, tweaked it, and paid a factory to make it for them. Airpods are just bluetooth headphones. Did Apple R&D invent bluetooth, or even bluetooth headphones? Apple watch was not even the first smart watch to market. They did not invent th…

Who is talking about patents? I was talking about business risk. Since when does invention ever imply economic gain? It's business 101, invention rarely leads to business payoffs unless there is innovation in the market, i.e. it is manufactured, packaged, sold, distributed to the demands of the day. Who invented the PC? Kenbak corp & John Blankenbaker, arguably - they didn't last. Motorola invented the mobile phone. Invention is important but is no indication of long term business success.

On the M series of chips, "Tweaked it" is a heavy lift. You are vastly underplaying the amount of Apple's design work that went into the M series of chips. It's led to massive performance gains against the competition.

Airpods are "just" bluetooth headphones, but happen to be the ones that have the most market share by far. It's about design and quality.

The Apple Watch also is the most widely adopted smart watch, by far. Because of how it was designed and manufactured.

The facts are that Apple has taken major risks repeatedly with their design and product decisions, and reaps the rewards with higher margins and market share than the competition. This isn't blinkard, this is just reality.

Re: Vision Pro: What we got wrong at Oculus that Apple got right

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https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/20/apples-enterprise-evolutio... (2018)

I think both are right in different ways. Apple isn't a big enterprise player as far as (except for development), I give all my employees macs to do their daily work on. You don't walk into a bank and see iMacs sitting there usually. So from the desktop computer side, they are not that deep into enterprise. HOWEVER, iPhones, yes. Tons of companies issue iPhones as their company phone. Walk into a store, its getting m…

I think it's important to add color to this part:

> Apple isn't a big enterprise player as far as (except for development)

They never really went after the tech companies themselves. The way Macs dominate certain development fields is a result of their popularity with consumers that drove companies to adopt the tech to attract talent. Me and many colleagues 5 years ago weren't interested in web startups using a Windows dev environment. Not saying there's merit to that, but my main point is that Apple focused on the end user(which happened to be a burgeoning web dev class during the last 15 years) rather than enterprise.

I think it's further evidenced by how relatively slow Apple has been to deploy some management tools that are more common in Windows-land. Anecodtally it feels like 3rd parties filled the gap on that side for Apple for quite a while. MDM, other IT tools, repair networks, and more recently self-repair kits were all much slower to deploy than how Microsoft (think Dell) went after their corporate customers.

Re: Vision Pro: What we got wrong at Oculus that Apple got right

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isn't it 10 grams heavier than an oculus?

26% heavier (135g) than the Quest 3. And the default Apple single-strap band favors aesthetics over weight distribution, which makes it even worse.

there is not a default band, you get both. quest pro is 700+ grams, so the AVP is lighter than its competitor
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