What will this thing be called next quarter?
Will it be around?
Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#862Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bard: fat inept old guy who gets by telling stories of yore Gemini: a crypto exchange Clearly they shouldn’t be asking the 21 year old interns what to call it. Now before anyone in google gets butthurt like they usually do I doubt I could do much better but Gaia IMO would have been mint you know it starts with G is four letters and represents a nebulous deity. Took 3 seconds but hey I’m not paid to think. In fact I’m…
And it has ai in it's name.
huh I didn’t even notice that I guess I’m sleepy
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#863In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
Also as time goes by, it'll get smoothly integrated into docs/gmail/maps/calendar/youtube/search/colab/sheets/android/assistant So Gemini could by your one-stop AI shop for everything. Only Microsoft can match it (but Microsoft doesn't have a popular maps, youtube, mail, smartphone OS service). Apple is another strong player (but they don't have productivity tools like docs, sheets or youtube). It really is Google's…
> It really is Google's to lose this AI race from now on.
Google took 11 months to catch up with the benefit of knowing the specifics behind how GPT-4 was built. While they have a moat with their products there's no sign that they're ever going to be ahead on the AI capabilities front. I hope to be wrong because we need more competition.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#864Beside of the model quality or whatever, I think the subscription plan tiers are structured in a quite weird way, especially for those who already use Google One. Previously, the tiers are reasonably structured: 1. $9.99/month for 2TB + other benefits. Offered in both monthly and annual plans. 2. $24.99/month for 5TB. Includes all benefits above. Offered in both monthly and annual plans. 3. Higher tiers for 10~30TB.…
I use Google Fi and I upgraded to the AI tier just fine
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#865Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png
Totally tangential, but I absolutely despise logic teasers of this kind.
First of all, they are so completely divorced from patterns of culturally conditioned human reasoning as to make them come off completely absurd (most people reason about their food preferences using a logic of tastes, not syllables in a word).
The game is less about logic and more about ignoring message contents, moving up a level, and treating the text as data without any legitimate evidence that you are justified in doing so. This is not a logic problem, it's a "guess the register shift/meta language" problem. The problem is about noticing that the question is not about the message content but about the structure of the message itself, and requires a bold leap. In real life justifying the conclusion would actually require a very sophisticated inference that allowed you to rule out the much more common application of a logic of tastes or cultural codes completely.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#866In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…
On logic it cannot handle the Dumb Monty Hall problem at all: https://g.co/gemini/share/33c5fb45738f
GPT-3.5, DeepSeek-Chat, and Gemini Pro all got it wrong. Only GPT-4 gets it.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#867I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…
The Bard name gave me a warm fuzzy feeling immediately transporting me back to my youth playing (or at least trying to play) Bard's Tale. The name evoked adventure, excitement and a good dose of dread. And, the idea of it being "role playing" struck me as a master meta stroke. Gemini, from the mythological standpoint, seemed to make more sense to me from an overall business/marketing standpoint. "This AI thing right…
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#868I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…
I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…
This. It creeps women out. It's difficult enough getting them to use an AI tool.
My wife commented on this when she saw it in Google News. Something about some dude in a medieval pub.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#869Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…
Though I agree bard isn't the best name, gemini is a worse name. Bard has connotations, but by it's self it makes one think of a person that talks well. WTF is gemini? It is a twin, but this is a singular product. Beyond that it's just generic. It doesn't tell you what it does at all.
Not with regular people. Bard is just "old" to them.
Think of the syllables. Copilot. Gemini. They need to be close to the market leader on a subconscious level.
Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced
#870Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gemeni, or the twins, is a deeply symbolic name for anyone who knows Greek history. It’s the story of Castor and Pollux, and in many versions of the story one brother killed the other only to beg for them to come back. It’s ominous to use this brand name for AI. It’s also associated to the Gemini killer and Joseph Testa and Anthony Senter who were famous as the mafia’s Gemini twins hitmen. I think better brands could…
For me it's associated with Gemini crypto and their horrible Gemini Earn investments in Genesis: https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=gemini-genesis-and-dcg-...
The crypto Gemini was named after the Winklevoss twins.