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OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman
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#862From NYT article [1] and Greg's tweet [2] "In a post to X Friday evening, Mr. Brockman said that he and Mr. Altman had no warning of the board’s decision. “Sam and I are shocked and saddened by what the board did today,” he wrote. “We too are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.” Mr. Altman was asked to join a video meeting with the board at noon on Friday and was immediately fired, according to Mr. Broc…
power hijack by the doomers. too bad the cat is out of the bag already
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#863Scrolling through this thread, the most confusing thing is the amount of what I would have to call hate towards sama — not explicitly but in sentiment, which left an even starker impression. People seem to feel a lot more strongly about him than I thought possible.
It depends on what time the comments are from
I'll say my first reaction was pretty positive: Sam Altman has a manner of speaking that rubs a lot of people the wrong way because it feels steeped in hubris. He'd probably talk down to anyone in this thread for being here instead of building and point to it as why you're not yet a billionaire.
Some people also worried he was a distraction to OpenAI building useful things because of his constant talk about AGI, pushing for regulation, etc. He successfully created an image of being a moderating rod in some ways.
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That being said, as the full picture comes out it's becoming clear the reasoning for his firing is more aligned against the average HN image than anyone imagined.
A lot of people admire OpenAI for the exact things he got fired for: which is building things and shipping them without miring yourself in philosophical diversions.
Now only a noisy minority who think OpenAI could have achieved this all without immense commercial funding are really for his ousting, and I think they'll see the opposite effect of what they hope: OpenAI is going to slow down, open source will not catch up, and overall AI will have lost out over it all.
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#864Ron Conway: >What happened at OpenAI today is a Board coup that we have not seen the likes of since 1985 when the then-Apple board pushed out Steve Jobs. It is shocking; it is irresponsible; and it does not do right by Sam & Greg or all the builders in OpenAI. https://twitter.com/RonConway/status/1725759359748309381
Don't see how they can possibly say that with no context? Why do random baseless opinions need to be regurgitated on HN?
Do you know he has no context, or I'd this also a random baseless opinion?
In either case Ron Conway is extremely well connected and well known in VC circles, and so his opinion will have weight here whether or not he has sources.
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#865Greg just quit too: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
This is perfect for Google. When your enemy (OpenAI) is making a massive mistake, don't interrupt them.
How much is Altman contributing to product, though? Product in its broadest sense - not only improving LLM performance and breadth but applications, or "productization": new APIs, ChatGPT, enterprise capabilities, etc.?
I think Altman is a brilliant guy and surely he'll fall on his feet, but I think it's legitimate to ask to what extent he's responsible for many of us using ChatGPT every single day for the last year.
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#866For me, this stood out in the announcement: > In a statement, the board of directors said: “OpenAI was deliberately structured to advance our mission: to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all humanity. The board remains fully committed to serving this mission. Why would they include that? Maybe its just filler, but if not then it is possible that there has been more than a simple disagreement about…
Arent they a couple of percent away from being owned by Microsoft? MS owning them would make them a benefit to Microsoft only at which point they would become nothing more than a corpse murdered to fuel that profit machine and it’s existing software.
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#867Happy. I never heard him say anything even remotely interesting about ai. He seemed a glib opportunist just not dumb enough to know how to sell a product he didn’t understand who eventually would have alienated or pushed out all the smart people who made the company’s and his success.
Based on Worldcoin and the Lex Fridman interviews I've long suspected his influence at OpenAI to be limited.
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#868What? He didn't tell the board that behind ChatGPT, there is actually a bunch of low-paid people copying/pasting quickly from Wikipedia?
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#869Bravely done by the board - it shows that they are actually trying to build something like AGI and not just talking the talk.
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#870This thread reads like a horde of gossiping high schoolers. No one knows what truly motivated to board to make this decision, so there’s no point in posting random theories.
Gossiping is deeply human though. Some believe it’s the main reason speech developed at all.
So please let us go about our most favorite activity.