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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by ShadowBanThis01 »

whyenot wrote: post #804
naikrovek wrote: post #782

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen the word "enshittification" three times in three days now, and it is already rubbing my last nerve raw. we make fun of business jargon and buzzword fads, and we do it just as much as anyone else, and it sickens me.

If you were on HN a decade ago, you would have seen "pivot" all over the place. Times change, but we are still human (mostly) and it seems to be part of who we are to mold language to fit our needs and circumstances. Take "bipping," a word I had never seen before a month ago, but that is now all over the place. (At least in some communities in the Bay Area; I guess all the car break-ins helped it's adoption).

Never heard of that, and when I do I will gleefully mock whoever is using it.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by ShadowBanThis01 »

foresto wrote: post #857
jamesdhutton wrote: post #800

I am curious to know how people here use their RPIs today, and how the RPI5 might help. I have had a model 3 for many years, which I enjoy tinkering with from time to time. I still haven't gotten over the novelty of having such small, cheap computer that runs Linux and does a pretty good job of it. That said, all I do is tinker with it. I turn it on, write a bit of code, marvel that the code runs, and turn it off. I'…

When the Pi 2 was new, it was one of the few single board computers that properly supported fractional frame rates, which are often needed for smooth video playback. (Many films are encoded at 24000/1001 fps rather than exactly 24 fps, for example.) I assume the newer models still support this, since they're still built around VideoCore chips. A faster model would allow decoding at higher resolutions and frame rates,…

But oddly enough, they don't support some screen resolutions: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/1202#issuecom...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by ur-whale »

qwertox wrote: post #301

A NVMe compatible M.2 M Key connector (like the Rock 5 Model B [0] has) would have been really nice. I'm starting to accumulate old but good, yet small in storage space terms NVMe's which I'm no longer needing, but which would be perfect for a Raspi. Even if the PCIe bus were an older generation and not as performant as the NVMe. The microSD card slot is really great to have, to get up-and-running, but once it's clea…

> A NVMe compatible M.2 M Key connector

Yeah. The Lichee Pi 4A has one of those under the board, it's really useful.

I wouldn't even blink if they completely jettisoned the MicroSD slot, these have proven to be a giant PITA over the years (slow, unreliable, etc...)

I really don't understand why they would miss that.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by rldjbpin »

as someone who did not upgrade for like a decade, now i feel like i can get on in early and benefit from leaps and bounds of an upgrade!

however, this offering is not really aligned with the foundation started out with imo. their decisions with the changes does not seem to satisfy the answer to "how will this promote computer science among kids?" for the most part.

i feel like the original mission is now relegated to the pi zero w, but it requires soldering for working with gpio so it leaves a lot of room for the hardware side of tinkering.

i am also curious about the m.2 hat and whether it can work with old sata ssd that match the format? otherwise old external hard drives might be a good alternative for relatively reliable long-term operation for now.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by rldjbpin »

nfriedly wrote: post #548

A number of vendors seem to only be showing 4GB and 8GB units for $60 and $80, but https://vilros.com/collections/raspberry-pi-5/products/raspb... has 1GB and 2GB variants for $40 and $50 respectively. https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-5/ says "LPDDR4X-4267 SDRAM (4GB and 8GB SKUs available at launch)" so maybe the cheaper ones will be coming at a later date? Unrelated to that, the addition of a power…

while i was personally working with 512 mb with my rpi all this time, i wonder if there is a point to having only 1/2 gb with the new soc.

even if you run the sbc headless and never touch the gpu, you risk starving the threads for things where it would be an upgrade over the previous models.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by rldjbpin »

futureshock wrote: post #206

I think it’s notable that the chip powering the RP5 is built on a 16nm process. (The RP4 was on 26nm). This is a nearly 10 year old manufacturing process and it’s silly to compare the performance per watt to any Intel or Arm chip on the market today. On such an old node, it’s not surprising that the power draw is so high. Of course an M2 would smoke a RP5 at a much lower power. But the RP5 is 60 bucks!

process node only matters that much when you are dealing with the latest system architecture. whether you compare with rockpi's offering or with apple, A76 is a design from 2018.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by rldjbpin »

botanical wrote: post #130

I've said this before but I feel like the Raspberry Pi Foundation hasn't met its objective of making computers accessible and affordable to everyone (especially children in disadvantaged places). In South Africa, the average child from a disadvantaged background has no chance of buying a Pi. Arduino on the other hand, and them open sourcing the hardware means very cheap but less powerful SBCs from companies in China…

for most countries (besides the uk and the us afaik), getting an rpi almost often meant paying more than the "$35" sticker price, despite accounting for taxes.

in the past, what would have been the prices in South Africa in your experience? for me, usually the final price would have been a 50% mark up minimum.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by ralphm »

Gormo wrote: post #773
wredue wrote: post #557

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5% is not arbitrary. It is removing massively skewing outliers who also see a massive growth outlier compared to everyone else. Looking at wage movement as slices of where one falls gives a clearer picture. Additionally, the reason it doesn’t make sense to remove low wage outliers while removing high wage outliers for average is because the median wage is closer to low wage outliers than it is to high wage outliers.…

Why would you cut off a fixed percentage rather than use a standard deviation range?

Because wages are non-Gaussian, standard deviation doesn't mean anything in this context.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by Operyl »

ShadowBanThis01 wrote: post #861
whyenot wrote: post #804

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were on HN a decade ago, you would have seen "pivot" all over the place. Times change, but we are still human (mostly) and it seems to be part of who we are to mold language to fit our needs and circumstances. Take "bipping," a word I had never seen before a month ago, but that is now all over the place. (At least in some communities in the Bay Area; I guess all the car break-ins helped it's adoption).

Never heard of that, and when I do I will gleefully mock whoever is using it.

It’s almost as if the English language adapts over time. I’m sure in the 1580s when the word “Gleeful” was seemingly introduced people felt weird about it too, heh.
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