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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by throwuwu »

com2kid wrote: post #420
3c0 wrote: post #122

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precisely this. once someone figures out how to get something like GPT integrated with actual products like smart home devices and the same access levels as siri/google assistant, it will be the true voice assistant experience everyone has wanted.

My prediction on this is eventually the LLMs will just write and execute scripts directly to control things. Imagine if iOS had something like apple script and all apps exposed and documented endpoints. LLMs would be able to trivially solve problems that the best voice assistants today cannot handle. Then again none of the current assistants can handle all that much. "Send Alex P a meeting invite tomorrow for a playd…

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by PoignardAzur »

DharmaPolice wrote: post #860
huijzer wrote: post #751

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> Once you find out something isn't true it's hard to unpick your mental model of the world. Intuitively, I would think the same, but a book about education research that I read and my own experience taught me that new information is surprisingly easy to unlearn. It’s probably because new information sits at the edges of your neural networks and do not yet provide a foundation for other knowledge. This will only happ…

That presumes the wrong information is corrected quickly. What about the cases when that doesn't happen? Aren't you often finding out things you thought were true from years ago are wrong?

You weigh new information by how confident you are in it. You try to check different sources, you maintain an open-mind, etc. In that, ChatGPT is just an additional low-reliability source of information.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by PoignardAzur »

famouswaffles wrote: post #783
TerrifiedMouse wrote: post #727

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> I feel like using LLM today is like using search 15 years ago - you get a feel for getting results you want. I don't think it's quite the same. With search results, aka web sites, you can compare between them and get a "majority opinion" if you have doubts - it doesn't guarantee correctness but it does improve the odds. Some sites are also more reputable and reliable than others - e.g. if the information is from Re…

>although some like Bard provide alternate drafts but they are all from the same source and can all be hallucinations ... Yes and no. If the LLM is repeating the same thing on multiple drafts then it's very unlikely to be a hallucination. It's when multiple generations are all saying different things that you need to take notice. LLMs hallucinate yes but getting the same hallucination multiple times is incredibly rar…

Wait, is that true? I feel like that claim needs a lot of disclaimers.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by iandanforth »

jameshart wrote: post #653
iandanforth wrote: post #579

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Correct, but it's functionally very different from how LLMs are implemented and deployed today. What you're highlighting is being experimented with and ties into ideas like scratch pads, world models, RAG, and progressive fine-tuning (if you're googling). It's a bit like saying your computer has everything it needs to manipulate photos but doesn't yet have Photoshop installed.

No, I’m not talking about giving LLMs chain of thought prompts or augmenting them with scratchpads - I’m literally saying that in a multilayer neural network you don’t know what concepts activations on the inner layers mean. The result of ‘where I want this conversation to be in 100 tokens time’ could absolutely be in there somewhere.

Ahh. That doesn't found falsifiable. So sure, "could be."

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by Closi »

pixl97 wrote: post #496
ilaksh wrote: post #174

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Maybe there is a state somewhere between "total chaos and carnage" and "emails users when new features are enabled for their account". Such as "decided it wasn't an operational priority to email users when features were enabled for them".

And then the moment you got this email you'd post to HN and everyone else would be "OMG, why don't I have that option" Incremental rollouts are hard.

And then while one person wants the update, another person complains it's spam...

Incremental rollouts are hard, and so is communicating in a way that makes everyone happy.

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Post by bamboozled »

93po wrote: post #758
bamboozled wrote: post #306

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It's true. I mean what is the point of doing schoolwork when some of the greatest minds of our time have decided the best way for the species to progress is to be replaced by machines? Imagine you're 16 years old right now, you know about ChatGPT, you know about OpenAI and their plans, and you're being told you need to study hard to get a good career..., but you're also reading up on what the future looks like accord…

I'm in my mid 30s and even I have some amount of apathy for the remainder of my career. I feel pretty confident my software and product experience is going to be not-so-useful in 15 years as it is today.

Same, I'm already pivoting into other areas.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by bamboozled »

civilitty wrote: post #356
bamboozled wrote: post #306

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It's true. I mean what is the point of doing schoolwork when some of the greatest minds of our time have decided the best way for the species to progress is to be replaced by machines? Imagine you're 16 years old right now, you know about ChatGPT, you know about OpenAI and their plans, and you're being told you need to study hard to get a good career..., but you're also reading up on what the future looks like accord…

Your username checks out! That said, is it that much different from the past twenty years, when everyone was being told to follow their passion and get a useless $200,000 communication or literature degree to then go work at Starbucks? At least kids growing up with AI will have a chance to make its use second nature like many of us did with computers 20-30 years ago. The kids with poor parental/counselor guidance wil…

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Post by bamboozled »

gtowey wrote: post #646
bamboozled wrote: post #156

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Warning, my opinion ahead: I think it's because Americans, more than nearly all other cultures, love convenience. It's why the love for driving is so strong in the US. Don't walk or ride, drive. Once I was walking back from the grocer in Florida with 4 shopping bags, and people pulled over and asked if my car had broken down and if I needed a ride, people were stunned...I was walking for exercise and for the environm…

I agree with this, but I think there is a deeper level which explains this. And that is convenience is a product . The thing that truly defines how corporations in America have shaped our culture is that everything is turned into a way to sell you something.

Sorry but this is actually what I meant, it's all about convenience, AI is another convenience product.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by kordlessagain »

rayuela wrote: post #479
modeless wrote: post #459

Voice has the potential to be awesome. This demo is really underwhelming to me because of the multi-second latency between the query and response, just like every other lame voice assistant. It doesn't have to be this way! I have a local demo using Llama 2 that responds in about half a second and it feels like talking to an actual person instead of like Siri or something. I really should package it up so people can t…

Can you share a github link to this? Where are you reducing the latency? Are you processing the raw audio to text? In my experience ChatGPT generation time is much faster than local Lllama unless you're using something potato like a 7B model.

Here's a link to a project that claims half second latency for the transcription part: https://github.com/gaborvecsei/whisper-live-transcription

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Post by bamboozled »

dist-epoch wrote: post #236
amelius wrote: post #128

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> With a few tweaks this is a general purpose solver for robotics planning. Yeah, but with an enormous ecological footprint. Also, not suitable for small lightweight robots like drones.

What's the ecological footprint of a human doing the same job? Especially when you factor in 18+ years of preparing.

Humans don't spend 18+ years preparing how to lower a seat post or drive a truck or even do pretty much most jobs. No one is solely training for 18 years to do anything.

Most of those 18 years are having a fucking great time (being young is freakin awesome) and living a great life is never a waste or a negative ecological footprint.

Society artificially slows education down so it takes 18 years to finish school because parents need to be off at work, so 18 years of baby sitting is preferred. By 18, kids are at the age where they will no longer be told what to do so it's off to the next waste of time, college, then 30 years of staring at a blinking box...or whatever.

When I was 12, I decided I wanted to drive a car, I'd never driven a car in my life, but I took my parents car and drove it around wherever I liked with absolutely no issue or prior instruction. I did this for years.

The youth are very capable, we just don't want them to be too capable...

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