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Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by npteljes »

hydrok9 wrote: post #579
npteljes wrote: post #175

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I feel the same. Netflix (and other streaming sites) provide insane value for a measly subscription price. In comparison, I think books, DVDs, CDs are way overpriced. Youtube Premium is the other thing. They make their own advertisements go away for $5/mo in Hungary, which is half of a cheap meal at a restaurant, and people act like it's pulling teeth.

Its funny you say this because here in Canada, the reaction I get from saying I pay $10 for Youtube Plus is the same.

I know, right? It's so stupid. Similar situation to paying for games. My friend group still games - and we have been growing up in an era with no internet, and rampant piracy. We could barely afford the cheapest hardware, and we have never paid for software. Nowadays though? Every one of has a good job, and gaming comes out way cheaper than any of our hobbies. Some still act like it's the end of the world dropping $20 on a game the group will play.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by pantulis »

lxgr wrote: post #857
prmoustache wrote: post #854

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Which is totally stupid because IP geo-location do not exist and everything is based on isp headquarter's address. IP addresses do not have physical location and ISP now have global presence. According to many websites I come from another country in eastern europe. Which is not true. If you are maintaining a website and rely on IP geo location, which should really be called "IP crappy geo guess", you are doing it wro…

> IP geo-location do not exist and everything is based on isp headquarter's address There are definitely edge cases (specifically for mobile data), but on average, IP geolocation is much more accurate than "the ISP‘s headquarters". I live nowhere near my ISPs corporate or even regional office(s), yet my IP location is accurate within a few hundred meters.

Has geolocation gotten a little bit worse in recent years? I understand IP blocks may change phisical location, and don't know if it's IPv4 scarcity or whatever, but apps that use IP location services seem to be mislocating me (like in cities 300km away)

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by andsoitis »

bee_rider wrote: post #804
autoexec wrote: post #741

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Stretching out the advertising is a huge reason why they want to delay releasing episodes. I value my time and setting my own schedule higher. I think that as long as the shows are good they'll find an audience and sustain cultural relevancy long after the ads have moved on to shoving the next thing in our faces.

Stretching out the subscription time seems like another big deal. Disney+ seems to have worked out a magnificently infuriating cadence of one interesting episode per week. There’s always just enough around the corner to not cancel the subscription…

That feels very user hostile.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by gnicholas »

taeric wrote: post #840
gnicholas wrote: post #817

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> pretend a household is multiple houses To me this reads as a category error. Households are made up of people, and houses are made of wood. But if you want to pay more to Netflix when you visit a friend's cabin, or your own, I won't get in your way!

And to me this reads as petulant redefining of terms in the hopes of pulling a gotcha. To be clear, the portability afforded with streaming services is nice. And I'm all for taking advantage of it. But household has always been the combination of a physical house and a social group in it. To claim otherwise is silly. Can you find other uses of the term that does this? Even "family" is typically constrained to immedia…

You're free to think of this as a redefining of terms, but the first person to make that argument upthread was downvoted to grey. That tends to indicate that I'm not the one redefining a term in a novel way.

But to answer your question, economists refer to "household income" and they don't care if you have a vacation home.

If you look at the origin of this thread, it relates to a single family with multiple homes. If you can't see that a family does not cease to be a family when they purchase a second home, then nothing I can say will convince you. Cheers!

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by fwsgonzo »

pantulis wrote: post #862
lxgr wrote: post #857

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> IP geo-location do not exist and everything is based on isp headquarter's address There are definitely edge cases (specifically for mobile data), but on average, IP geolocation is much more accurate than "the ISP‘s headquarters". I live nowhere near my ISPs corporate or even regional office(s), yet my IP location is accurate within a few hundred meters.

Has geolocation gotten a little bit worse in recent years? I understand IP blocks may change phisical location, and don't know if it's IPv4 scarcity or whatever, but apps that use IP location services seem to be mislocating me (like in cities 300km away)

I haven't seen it gotten any better (or worse). It still puts me regularly in other far away cities, in the south of the country, or just in the country. Never in my town. I will never trust GeoIP to figure out anything other than the country.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by fwsgonzo »

zaphirplane wrote: post #791
mathgeek wrote: post #699

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Your comment adds nothing useful to the discussion, as GP never said it was a matter of cost. I am in the same boat and it’s about convenience and/or the loss of what we currently have. Netflix both raised prices and reduced what you get.

I disagree, if cracking down on friends and different households sharing passwords means I get it cheaper than I’m ok with that. Their implementation allows people to use their tablet / phone / setup box/ streaming device in multiple locations. Since the technology isn’t available to cater for people living and paying for multiple house holds the options are everyone pays extra or the very very few people that can af…

You get it cheaper? How? We even have inflation caused by greed and greed only.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by upon_drumhead »

greedo wrote: post #513
upon_drumhead wrote: post #232

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They’re releasing their silo series from the dust books next week. I have relatively high hopes

Can you ELI5 this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silo_(series) (May have spoilers in the plot section) is being made into a tv series

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by prmoustache »

fwsgonzo wrote: post #865
pantulis wrote: post #862

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Has geolocation gotten a little bit worse in recent years? I understand IP blocks may change phisical location, and don't know if it's IPv4 scarcity or whatever, but apps that use IP location services seem to be mislocating me (like in cities 300km away)

I haven't seen it gotten any better (or worse). It still puts me regularly in other far away cities, in the south of the country, or just in the country. Never in my town. I will never trust GeoIP to figure out anything other than the country.

Even for this it isn't reliable. Depending on the service I can be in different countries. Which is a clear no if you are trying to decide which content you can offer to your customer.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by _the_inflator »

ho_schi wrote: post #569

Netflix: ”You get two parallel streams with your family. Family means trust and password sharing.“ Customers: “Farewell pirating. We pay a fair flat and it is automatically shared between Netflix and artists. Great!“ Netflix: “We increase the flat permanently. And we have now competitors and doesn’t over anymore all relevant content (e.g. Star Trek Picard, Expanse, Disney). How about ruining it and blocking family me…

If you have a look at Amazon prime these days, it reminds me of a YouTube clone, where you have to pay for every video you want to watch.

Only nice thing is, that the channel subscriptions are easily cancelable. Spending 3-9 bucks on a channel for a month is essentially the price for one movie, so it is ok for me to a certain extent.

Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by watwut »

genewitch wrote: post #773
watwut wrote: post #660

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I have seen a single reality TV on Netlix. It is just not recommending them to me.

Cold case files, the first 48, unsolved mysteries, any cooking show - "reality TV" is a huge market. It's not all toddlers and tiaras and big brother, those were just the "huge, impossible to ignore" ones.

I never seen literally any of those. Even if they were suggested at some point, I do not recall seeing them.
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