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The day Windows died

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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by mehlmao »

_dain_ wrote: post #730
mise_en_place wrote: post #570

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> I guess I'll crawl back into my cave and keep using Linux for the foreseeable future. Yeah you could do that, but now even Ubuntu includes ads when invoking apt. There is no escape from the ads, and it will only get worse. Even flatpak must be immediately removed, and snaps for that matter. As it is adware clutter for the system.

>now even Ubuntu includes ads when invoking apt Not saying this is wrong but I haven't encountered any ads when I use Ubuntu on WSL2 through a terminal. Does it happen only in the "proper" desktop version? What do the ads look like?

I just had to disable this on a machine earlier today. They list all the packages you have that could receive additional security patches through Ubuntu Pro. I'd much rather see 'All packages are up to date.'

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by photonbeam »

dspillett wrote: post #749
raxxorraxor wrote: post #524

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I don't understand how Microsoft can cheapen their main OS that much. If they really wanted to emulate Apple, they wouldn't fill their OS with trash in every corner. This also extends to the default landing page of Edge. This is the worst form of bullvard, it is a tiny bit better than directly advocating for penis enlargement on the internet. But not by much at all. There should be no ads on the OS level. Especially…

> I don't understand how Microsoft can cheapen their main OS that much. If they could just drop it right now, both desktop and server, without causing a major explosion, I'm pretty sure they would. The hassle of dealing with hardware compatibility and vendors can't be worth the small amount that get per licence these days, why not let Apple and Open Source deal with that collection of end-user grief? Server-side & si…

What stops MS from raising OEM windows licensing prices 3x

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by photonbeam »

znpy wrote: post #807
Aeolun wrote: post #572

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> I guess I'll crawl back into my cave and keep using Linux for the foreseeable future. I’d been using Windows for so long, dealing with all the issues, random installs, shutdowns and all the crap. Then one fateful day 3 years ago I installed linux, and I haven’t had to think about my computer ever since. It’s absurd.

Indeed. Years ago maintaining a linux installation was a part time job. Did you update the kernel? Have fun recompiling the nvidia driver. Usb modem? Roll 19 or higher for some random package off sourceforge to support your device and roll a 20 for some kind soul to have written an howto. Bluetooth audio? Who knows! Printing? Sure, let’s dive into lpd’s legacy on this earth. Attaching an external display? You’ll love…

KDE plasma is really what we should be steering people towards, its excellent

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by grantsh »

dev_daftly wrote: post #766
abliefern wrote: post #373

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I've never seen those apps on my machine, very strange. Is this an OEM choice?

Yea, people are confusing what comes in windows by default with what is added by the OEM as most of them have never installed a fresh copy of windows.

I installed a fresh copy of windows straight from the official ISO a month or two ago and was bombarded with candy crush, tiktok, CNN, instagram, LinkedIn, etc. It took me a few solid hours to get it out of my way as much as possible.

After that, even on my brand new Ryzen 9, it took 15 seconds to open a web browser. I decided to quit my windows-only games and delete windows in favor of Linux (like usual).

It's not just OEM installs, perhaps you got windows a few versions back and updated it avoiding the new bloatware crap.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by flangola7 »

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red-iron-pine wrote: post #709

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Enterprise images and settings should make it easy to squash that -- what is IT doing?

At a previous job, I made a joke about expensing a $thousands Windows Server license and installing it on my laptop to get a relatively clean system. One of the sysadmins responded with something like "lol" followed by a screenshot of an Xbox app on a production server.

That just seems like a needless vulnerability. Don't have more code installed than necessary.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by wharfjumper »

tw04032023 wrote: post #221

I'll bite. What are our options? Linux desktop environments are the worst out there and I for one am eternally grateful I don't have to deal with this stuff every day. Between X11/Wayland debacle, conscious effort to prevent anything resembling backward compatibility AND proper software distribution on the platform and a myriad of minor infuriating issues in each major desktop environment I cannot fathom why people a…

This is not my experience either personally, or with my 70yo father in law, or employees all running Linux distros. The experience is excellent apart from battery life. My son who games on Windows hates its constant random 100% CPU usage and compulsory reboots.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by Jiro »

bombolo wrote: post #413
piyush_soni wrote: post #380

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> And of course it's Linux, so there's infinite opportunity to get under the hood and tinker. - Or keep trying to fix the environment + hardware compatibility issues and not do the actual work/study. Or keep editing some random xorg.conf file because his monitor's display suddenly became weird. Or try to fix some other random files since the sound driver doesn't work. He's 10. I'm 40 and still horrified to deal with…

I feel that people who haven't tried the thing they're commenting about in the last 10 years should start with a disclaimer like "=== ATTENTION, I'M JUST PARROTING HERE ===".

Unless the bug is actually ten years old and nobody will fix it because it's too old. https://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=706455

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by askvictor »

Ekaros wrote: post #666
askvictor wrote: post #644

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Does SteamOS do this? (genuine question - I don't run it, but it's probably one of the bigger consumer-grade Linux distros)

Nope, but Valve makes the money from selling games on Steam. So they do not need it from others. Same really doesn't apply to other manufacturers.

And yet, despite Microsoft making money from licensing Windows, selling Office subscriptions, and (presumably) their App Store, they feel it's worth opening a firehose of ads on the user. I don't think that having a solid revenue stream and flooding the user with ads are related in any way; it's just a question of the company's morals and where they see value for/from the user.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by strix_varius »

jodrellblank wrote: post #743
xmcqdpt2 wrote: post #670

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I'm so glad we have modern computers with gigabytes of RAM so that we can do real-time chat. This app would have been impossible fifteen years ago when computers had only 1GB of RAM or less. Without modern hardware development we would still all be sending eachother long emails like it's 2006. /s

Where was the chat app of fifteen years ago which could open Microsoft Word documents inside it, such that multiple people could have them open and be shared-editing the same file at the same time? Where was the chat app which could record the video call, add automated transcriptions, and upload it to a SharePoint-alike document store with permissions for the people on the call to watch it? Where was the chat app of…

You say all this like it's some technical marvel, but my family & friends do all of these things (chat, realtime docs, video, etc) with no problem on a wide variety of hardware with free google accounts.

Meanwhile, at work, I can't reliably see my teammates in video calls because MS Teams still hasn't figured out how WebRTC works.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by pmarreck »

Windows died a long time ago, its users just haven't realized it yet.

Get a Framework laptop and install NixOS on it. Let him learn Linux while having the wonderful rollback capabilities that NixOS gives you. Let him enjoy tons of games via Proton. Done.

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