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Re: The Twitter Files

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It does not seem like this really exposed any new information - Twitter publicly justified its actions as being about its hacked data policy back when this all happened ( https://www.nationalreview.com/news/twitter-cites-hacked-mat... ). All this shows is some internal disagreement as to whether that was the right call. By the way, Facebook also suppressed the news story citing its misinformation policy ( https://www…

There's nothing really new in your post either, since it misses the whole point. All your post does is restate the obvious. It was obvious the story was true and that Twitter covered it up. The news worthiness of this is that, just before a very close election, Twitter was used to hide information for political purposes. Not only that, the White House press secretary had her account suspended for calling Twitter on i…

Just a note for other readers who are not quite so far down the rabbit hole: no, it wasn’t obvious that all or even most or even just the “relevant” bits of the laptop contents are authentic, and it’s still not known today.

Some emails have been verified, many others have not been, and we still don’t know the origin of the laptop itself. Allegedly Hunter handed it to a blind computer repair man (no video!) and said “I am Hunter Biden.”

Re: The Twitter Files

#862

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Taibbi doesn't even say any of that

This tweet and the next one in the thread show exactly that https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064

Those tweets the Biden team is requesting are actual dick pics that Hunter never consented to being shared online.

You’ve been duped.

Re: The Twitter Files

#863
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I'm a moderate, not a Democrat and not a Republican. I think people on the left have a blind spot here, that the more suppression they use, the more division they create, and the more moderates and people on the right grow to resent them. I would have identified as a Democrat on pretty much every issue, but this authoritarian suppression of speech and ideas has just pushed me away from that side completely. At this p…

> but this authoritarian suppression of speech and ideas has just pushed me away from that side completely So as a moderate you prefer DeSantis approach to Disney, his forbidding of speech in schools, etc.? He's not passing literal anti press and anti speech laws to piss off the MAGA base. It's remarkable to me he so badly wanted props for punishing Disney for exercising free speech he forgot he's supposed to be pro…

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Re: The Twitter Files

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Honest Question: If the white house contacts Twitter and asks for a tweet to be removed, is that a first amendment violation?

Not exactly. Technically the first amendment says "Congress shall not.." and of course over the years this has come to mean government. But I think it is wrong for the white house to do anything that gifts the impropriety of restricting speech.

This is not the detail that matters. Anyone in government, including Congress, can ask someone to do anything. They cannot coerce or appear to coerce regulation of speech. This is extremely well established.

Re: The Twitter Files

#865

So interesting to see if this will affect politics since midterms have passed. At least at the moment I don’t think free speech (esp via Twitter) is a priority over guns, crime, economy and reproductive rights for the average voter, or that any candidates want to seriously hold that mantle. I wonder if and how that will change going into the next election cycle.

I expect the new Republican Congress will drag this out Benghazi-like for as long as they hold the majority, and it will become tiresome to all except congressional grandstanders and my late father who will somehow find a way to forward me emails about it from wherever his happy place is beyond the grave.

So, like the jan 6 trials? Where some people are STILL waiting for theirs.

Re: The Twitter Files

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post #135

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Exactly. The fact so many don't understand this is discouraging. Just because you support a particular candidate shouldn't mean it is ok, because it could very easily go against you on another occasion. There needs to be a uniform standard and accountability for this.

what does a particular politician have to do with this? the "leak" literally said both the trump white house and the biden campaign lobbied to have posts removed i think it's kind of funny that the government is lobbying corporation now, rather than the other way around.

It's as if everyone parroting this line stopped reading at the "However":

"10.Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However:

11. This system wasn't balanced. It was based on contacts. Because Twitter was and is overwhelmingly staffed by people of one political orientation, there were more channels, more ways to complain, open to the left (well, Democrats) than the right. https://t.co/sa1uVRNhuH

12. The resulting slant in content moderation decisions is visible in the documents you’re about to read. However, it’s also the assessment of multiple current and former high-level executives."

Re: The Twitter Files

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post #853

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> citing different policies that are obviously inconsistently applied Here's a better example: the Canadian trucker protests. GiveSendGo was hacked, and the names of people who had donated to the protests were made public - and Twitter had no problem with those "hacked materials" being shared on its platform. I'd think that if there was ever a reason to block the publication of hacked materials, it would be to preven…

Pretty much this. It’s a set of rules selectively applied depending on whether or not your political allies or opponents are on the receiving end. Taibbi leans left and I don’t but I like reading his articles (despite premises I may not agree with) because he’s at least honest in his arguments and doesn’t try to bury or twist inconvenient facts.

Taibbi hasn't leaned left in quite some time and that may be why you like reading his articles.

Re: The Twitter Files

#868
post #576

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Nobody on the left cares about protecting Hunter Biden. IF he broke any laws, then he should be in jail. AFAIK, there's no current legal case against him. What you're seeing here is the "left" learning to not take everything the right screams about at face value. They watched Hillary get dragged through the mud with Benghazi over absolutely nothing of substance, including months of Congressional hearings. Thus this n…

What was actually on Hunter Biden's laptop? Can someone give me a link to a succinct, non-partisan list of facts?

Unbiased, factual descriptions are really hard to come by. Here's an ok take on it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/z3isaw/whats_...

You'll have to do your own digging around to build up your own opinion if you want more info. From my digging, it still seems like pretty much nothing we didn't already know.

Re: The Twitter Files

#869
post #66

It's still kind of odd to think that you can be an in-favor executive at a company, then somebody else can buy your company, fire you, and go back and read all your work emails (many of which would be extremely sensitive) and share it with journalists who then screenshot it and share it with the world on the same platform that employed you! This was always a possibility (and a probability- my friend was a lawyer who…

The golden rule: before sending anything potentially sensitive, ask yourself: if this email/doc/note were to be published on the cover page of NYT, would you be embarrassed by it? If yes, don't send it, or rephrase it accordingly.

I don't know why people keep pointing this out- I already knew this when I made my comment. I knew it from the day I joined Google and it was just proved out when I read my own manager's email (from a previous role) on the front page of the NYT. This is very different from legal discovery and disclosure.
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