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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by watwut »

dmix wrote: post #564
ekianjo wrote: post #558

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As if King cant pay 20 dollars.

Everyone seems to either be assuming King somehow cares about paying $$ instead of making a political statement and/or Elon was making a serious earnest reply to King, instead of being his usual needling shitposter self. Neither of which both of their histories supports. Stephen King will quit Twitter just as credibly as Jay-z “retired” from rapping.... like Elon Musk gives a shit about convincing a person worth $500…

Stephen King does not live from tweeting.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by dwaite »

carbine wrote: post #497
UncleMeat wrote: post #336

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He's owned Twitter for a few days. He threw out $20 and then adjusted it down to $8, seemingly based on feedback. Did he already know that $8 was the appropriate amount? Was there already some internal analysis done that he is just piggy-backing on? It certainly seems like Musk is making big changes literally moments after arriving on scene.

yes great point, without a doubt he put together $44B and never once thought about what he would do once he acquired it.

Until a few weeks ago he didn't think he'd have to acquire it

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by threeseed »

Ar-Curunir wrote: post #451
threatofrain wrote: post #433

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There's not enough "room" to produce interesting content solely on Twitter vs YouTube — you have to hiccup out your value in segmented tweet threads. Thus if Twitter does provide value to followers it is in referencing outside material. Elon is supposedly directing Twitter engineers to go full-steam on reviving Vine so we'll see if that can turn things around.

The vine crowd has long moved to Tiktok; even IG and YT couldn’t steal mindshare from them. Vine has no chance, given that they’re starting with a 6yr old product

> Vine has no chance, given that they’re starting with a 6yr old product

Unless the US government decides to ban TikTok which is a not so crazy possibility.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by dwaite »

BurningFrog wrote: post #128
thorum wrote: post #24

Blue checkmarks are not just about verification and extra features. They’re a status symbol. They mean you are cool and notable enough to deserve one according the shadowy and mysterious Twitter checkmark committee. If they become a commodity that anyone with a little money can buy, they lose a big part of their appeal to the average person.

This is day 5 of the Elon/Sink era. I expect more changes are ahead that might address these concerns.

I expect a never-ending fountain of new concerns, as old ones fade from view.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by thaumasiotes »

koonsolo wrote: post #858
thaumasiotes wrote: post #797

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> 0% of the top 50 on Twitter are primarily known for their tweets. Why limit yourself to the top 50? 0% of all Twitter users are primarily known for their tweets. Tweets are, by design, unsuitable for publishing content. They're useful for advertising content you publish somewhere else.

I know for (indie) games, twitter is a lagging indicator. That means you don't get famous through twitter, but twitter is a lagging indicator of the success on Steam. I can look up the source of this statement if you're interested.

I don't really see the relevance? We can rephrase your comment as "if people like your game, sometimes they follow your Twitter account".

That's just an example of using Twitter to advertise your other content.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by berkes »

costcofries wrote: post #47
danpalmer wrote: post #14

The good: Twitter should not be editorally curating people through verification, making verification only about ID and being a real person is a broadly good change, as long as it's not necessary for participation. Brands, celebrities, those in the public eye could benefit from this. Needs to be implemented with care and ideally with a branding change so as not to confuse users as the semantics change. The bad: $8 is…

"biases towards those with means rather than those contributing to the conversation" I'm not sure this is a bad thing. If you are a user who actively contributes to the conversation and get's value out of being in that conversation, then it's likely you derive enough value to pay $8. The difference however is that now your contribution is more likely to be seen. You might even engage more now. If you aren't that user…

Please do realize that $8 is something completely different for a Norwegian than a Bangladeshi. For one it's the cost of a beer, for the other, the wages of days work.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by lotsoweiners »

danpalmer wrote: post #60
costcofries wrote: post #47

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"biases towards those with means rather than those contributing to the conversation" I'm not sure this is a bad thing. If you are a user who actively contributes to the conversation and get's value out of being in that conversation, then it's likely you derive enough value to pay $8. The difference however is that now your contribution is more likely to be seen. You might even engage more now. If you aren't that user…

> I'm not sure this is a bad thing. If you are a user who actively contributes to the conversation and get's value out of being in that conversation, then it's likely you derive enough value to pay $8. The difference however is that now your contribution is more likely to be seen. You might even engage more now. I disagree. Diverse input results in better conversations – less of an echo chamber, less black and white…

Diverse as long as you mean minorities and not Republicans right?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by posix86 »

paxys wrote: post #434
koonsolo wrote: post #415

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> In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. There is a very big difference between Twitter and YouTube, and it's obvious once you know it. Look at the most popular people on twitter: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitte... All celebrities outside of twitter. Then look at YouTube: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouT... Almost all made famous by YouTube.…

> Then look at YouTube: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouT ... > Almost all made famous by YouTube. I looked the top 50 in that list and maybe ~5 of them are what you describe. The rest are big music labels, TV channels, artists and other such independently popular figures, not very different from Twitter.

You might be right, but in general, most famous channels on youtube are famous bcs of youtube.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by abenga »

assttoasstmgr wrote: post #804
paxys wrote: post #322

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That's the core problem with this approach. Elon and others have the idea in their head that Twitter is a social graph where people come to interact with each other, and everyone is relatively equal. So every user paying $X/mo to solidify their place in the graph makes some conceptual sense. In reality Twitter is more akin to YouTube than Facebook. A tiny percentage of users are creators while the vast majority are c…

Gonna disagree with you here. Musk is only doing with Twitter what Fark.com did over 20 years ago with TotalFark - you pay a small monthly fee for admission, and you get a shiny badge next to your username, along with a few perks. Just like Something Awful forums did before that - paid admission - it's an excellent tool to weed out the obvious bots and low effort trolls. Twitter has no "creators" - it's just a fancy…

Bad actors who are trying to push some agenda to make money for example, are more likely to pay than ordinary lurkers who click the "retweet" button once in a while. Twitter is not that important, if it becomes pay-to-play, I'm out, sorry.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by dwaite »

LrQSs8Dq wrote: post #851

Can someone explain what the deal with twitter verification is (I know what it is) and why everybody is so upset about that it's going to be a premium feature? Asking as someone who doesn't care about social media at all, and has never used Facebook or Twitter, except for clicking the occasional link to some tweet.

Twitter verification is meant for people with sufficient notoriety (say, elected officials, artists/actors, leaders in their field) to prevent impersonation and fraud.

So, if I get rickrolled on twitter, I can tell whether it was a post by the real Rick Astley or by some impersonator.

Or for another more topical example, the tag #TrumpIsDead is currently trending on Twitter. If I click on that for more information, the verified check might tell me who has notoriety as a journalist or which accounts represent official news organizations, vs who is trying to further promote a false meme (in protest for Elon forbidding content moderation in the lead-up to the US elections)

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