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Candace Owens on the home page. If that's not enough to convince you, I know too well that I don't posses the skills to convince you otherwise.
I personally haven't seen an issue with Candace Owens based on what I've seen, do you have examples of a grift or something that can shed some light on this?
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I think you're trivializing the issue quite a bit. But yes, I dislike the paternalism of considering everyone else on the internet stupid and incapable to making informed decisions when facing questionable points of view. I'm not qualified to speak with any authority about this issue, but my opinion is that people that are willing to shoot other people most likely have other incentives than reading a singular's dude…
"This theoretically would ensure that this person is not exposed to only hate and negativity, and will hopefully make a better decision" .... "and I doubt I'll change my mind on this fact any time soon" You have high hopes of people changing their mind when presented with new information, except for yourself apparently
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To those who espouse the idea that comments should be filtered for the greater good, I say 'You first.' There was a time period when the left was for free speech and the right was wanting to constrain it. Maybe its just a giant pendulum - there is no right/left difference when it comes to free speech - everyone wants to censor / filter the speech of the opposite side. If things come in cycles, then I expect the right…
> To those who espouse the idea that comments should be filtered for the greater good, I say 'You first.' that's part of the reason why I come to HN, for well-moderated (or "censored" if you prefer) discussions on tech
I don't care much about my freedom to speak. My voice will never be a significant influence on the world anyway. What I care about is my freedom to listen. I value the freedom to review all the evidence and all the arguments then draw my own conclusions.
I don't often want to read dead comments. They are mostly low quality and deserve their status. Nevertheless, showdead is sometimes quite useful and the transparency gives me more faith in the moderation.
Can't make private individuals or companies host your speech. Can't make people listen to your speech. There's no protection against civil (ie, non governmental) action against your speech. You want freedom, host it your self and be prepared to accept the consequences and gains. Go to Speakers Corner and have a go. Put up a website. Buy a TV/Radio station, or Internet provider.
Twitter became de-facto a part of public square. Especially since appointed and elected officials started using for official and non-official communicate. The US court of appeals said it pretty clearly here: https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/local/4th-circui... Censoring individual twits is one thing, but banning entire account is a different thing, because now it restricts your ability to interact with ele…
We treat Twitter and Internet forums less seriously, as if someone can say whatever the fuck they want with no consequences at all. That’s not how it works in the public square, so why should it be that way on Twitter?
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Not the person you asked, but here’s an interview that released yesterday. https://youtu.be/-ZmbP5vIbyk
Thanks. I was looking forward to watching that. The comments thread was mostly positive. It’s gone now. Memory holed.
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Frank Zappa had plenty of legal issues with people of that background in the recording industry and we never heard anything more untoward from him than a certain unfortunately titled song Google likes to censor out of albums. No “death con 3” , etc.
So did Michael Jackson, and he talked about it. What does it matter if some other person did or didn’t talk about their issues - it’s irrelevant. Do you know what he meant by death con 3? Because he explains it himself in the video and it’s not untoward like you’re implying. Again, maybe listen to the guy for 20m.
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Well, around 2 years ago, he made a $2 million direct donation to support the families of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery and Breonna Taylor[0]. 0. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/entertainment/kanye-west-two-...
I don’t think George Floyd’s family is too happy about that atm
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Pollution is an example of an externality which unregulated ism fails to address, but since capitalism is the dominant economic model and many capitalists advocate for less regulation, it’s not a dramatic leap of logic to say capitalism is the problem.
Again, we've had something very not capitalist to compare it to (which those people tend to love) and boy, was that worse. But the past tends to be forgotten and on the internet nobody knows that the Soviet Union existed, so why not claim that it didn't. Or that it does, but is being attacked by NATO. Or, my favorite, that Russia doesn't exist, but is just a mirage used by NATO countries to pretend there's an externa…
No one here is suggesting that the Soviet Union has a good track record on pollution. People are suggesting that capitalism doesn’t. “Capitalism is the problem” does not imply that the Soviet Union is the solution.
When people say “capitalism is the problem,” they’re often looking towards an ideal — which sometimes exists and sometimes doesn’t — of a better world. That’s not a bad thing. Practically no one would suggest that an authoritarian flavor of communism (ala USSR) is that ideal.
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Millions of people believe the Covid vaccine was designed to kill them, or that the Clintons eat fetuses in pizzerias. Millions more are absolutely certain a Jewish secret cabal runs the world. Are they "insane", or just dumb? Kanye West is pushing conspiracies a little further, into the domestic realm. What's upsetting is that when ordinary John Does promote conspiracy theories they are shunned, but when it's a succ…
He's not unwell because he's antisemitic. Maybe he's antisemitic all the time, but it seems probable that he's antisemitic because he's unwell. He doesn't seem unwell because he's antisemitic. He seems unwell because he believes that his children's friends are fake child actors installed by a conspiracy to sexualize them, and that a (possibly related?) Jewish conspiracy caused Pete Davidson to sleep with his ex-wife.…
Also, believing members of your family are impersonators or aliens is something young siblings try to persuade one another all the time. It's not unheard of.
Anyway, my larger point is that we should not tolerate antisemitism because of "crazy". Just because one adds outrageous beliefs on top of hate doesn't excuse the hate.
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Twitter became de-facto a part of public square. Especially since appointed and elected officials started using for official and non-official communicate. The US court of appeals said it pretty clearly here: https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/local/4th-circui... Censoring individual twits is one thing, but banning entire account is a different thing, because now it restricts your ability to interact with ele…
As a counterpoint, even in the public square, not all types of speech are allowed. For a frivolous example, many cities have noise ordinances and laws against breaking the public peace. So you get tossed in jail for a night for being a public nuisance. We treat Twitter and Internet forums less seriously, as if someone can say whatever the fuck they want with no consequences at all. That’s not how it works in the publ…
No one seriously suggests that all types of speech are allowed. Malevolently shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater is not free speech.
Noise ordinance have fairly limited scope and in virtual scope is actually fairly easy to deal with. I don't care what Kanye West things and I don't subscribe to him. As for disorderly conduct, it is such a wide net of laws, that it can range from misdemeanor like making loud noises to criminalizing homelessness or some other biased laws, I don't think that even make sense to apply this logic to the virtual space.