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Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
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Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#862Earlier quoted context omitted.
> their tools were unsurpassed Why the past tense? Which tools have been surpassed? Have Photoshop been surpassed? I am genuinely curious here. I take note of Capture One, but is it an "acceptable yet technically inferior alternative that I picked because I don't agree with Adobe business practices" (which I think is a valid reason) or a viable alternative even for someone who doesn't have a problem dealing with Adob…
"Which tools have been surpassed? " Davinci Resolve is, for my use case, just as good as Premiere and Afx. It's also free. I wish gimp was as good as Ps.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#863Earlier quoted context omitted.
> discovered it had gone subscription-only as well, meaning my entire photo library would now be trapped on my old laptop unless I paid a monthly fee forever. I empathize, but isn't all this the reason they would fork out so much for figma? I mean, people hated them for going subscription with the tools that used to be desktop, but they absolutely adore figma that has never been anything but subscription. It's confus…
A lot of amateur photographers used Lightroom and were willing to pay a one off purchase price whereas a monthly cost for something you might hardly use in a month is too expensive. Figma has a high percentage of users who use it regularly as part of their paying jobs. It also has online features, which you expect to pay continuously for. Lightroom Classic had no online features. I still use Lightroom 6, the last sta…
I mostly did photography while travelling and Covid killed that the last two years, but I still had to pay Adobe.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#864As a current software engineer at Adobe, I was really disappointed when I got the internal email announcing this this morning. It's reminiscent of Microsoft's anticompetitive behavior in the early 00s. Figma is the better product and Adobe knows it - but instead of using that to light a fire under them and work harder to create a better product, Adobe just used its deep pockets to make the problem go away. I was alre…
Adobe loses the game with their skill and use money to win it. Figma won the game with their skill but lose the money game.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#865Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find myself coming back to this Steve Jobs quote more and more: "It turns out the same thing can happen in technology companies that get monopolies, like IBM or Xerox. If you were a product person at IBM or Xerox, so you make a better copier or computer. So what? When you have monopoly market share, the company's not any more successful. So the people that can make the company more successful are sales and marketin…
This is mere hand-wringing; Steve Jobs never cared to consider the aspects of our political system that leads to this, on the contrary, he positively exploited them for his own gain, e.g. patents and his app store tyranny. Steve Jobs is among the worst people to talk about this kind of neo-feudalism.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
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Our university subscribes to Adobe Products Suit- when all of their functionality can be replicated with FOSS. They sent out a survey about this before they started the subscription and I answered negatively to that, to no avail. So that's where our tuition/grant/loan/savings money are going.
Unless some stuff has changed in the past few years gimp is not a suitable replacement for adobes products.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
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#868Can’t begrudge anyone involved, but this feels kind of lame. I thought Figma really could compete long term with Adobe.
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#869Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only open and free software can defeat the likes of Adobe. Can't wait for the dominance of Photoshop to be ended by gimp and ffmpeg, I've found that they work fairly well for whatever editing I need. Maybe open source variety of Figma also exist?
Photopea has been pretty good at replacing Photoshop for my needs (non-designer).
Re: Adobe to acquire Figma for $20B
#870As a current software engineer at Adobe, I was really disappointed when I got the internal email announcing this this morning. It's reminiscent of Microsoft's anticompetitive behavior in the early 00s. Figma is the better product and Adobe knows it - but instead of using that to light a fire under them and work harder to create a better product, Adobe just used its deep pockets to make the problem go away. I was alre…
Isn't this how competition works? Big payoffs create massive incentives for people to create great products in the hope they will be bought out. Adobe may have "destroyed" one great product, but think of the hundreds of new ones they have incentivized to be created. People look at this all wrong and ignore the downstream effect.