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Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by function_seven »

omnicognate wrote: post #846
beloch wrote: post #834

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Modern trackball,flexing, etc. multi-blade razors are expensive, but idiot proof. You can copy one of the Gillette commercials and just mash the thing to your face and make one long stroke through the chemical foam. Bam. Done. If you're happy with this, be happy. Read no further. What this article isn't telling you is that DE razors can be almost as fast, but there's a learning curve. They don't flex, bend, or rotate…

> Most of us are used to chemical gel's or foams. Much better than these and shaving soap / brush, is Somerset's Shaving Oil[1]. King of Shaves do a shaving oil too, but it's nowhere near as good. Not affiliated, I just love the stuff. You can use it with shaving soap too, but I just use it on its own. At one point I was worried the company might go under so I bought a big box of it just in case. It's not a great bus…

Ok, your comment just convinced me to give my DE another go. For the last few months I've been using cheap plastic 2-blade disposables because they're cheap enough, and easier to use than the nice razor I've been ignoring. Just ordered some oil and balm from that site.

ALSO: That order page is a breath of fresh air. As soon as I added one item to my "cart", I was presented with their full list of SKUs, enough info to know which is which, and a quantity box next to each. So simple. I wish more ecommerce sites did stuff like this.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by adrianmonk »

tasuki wrote: post #811
coastflow wrote: post #783

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There are additional steps. You need to take a spoon (extra tool), scoop out the loose leaf tea from the container, make sure not to spill it, and then pour it into the strainer. After steeping, you need to dump the used leaves (assuming you aren't planning to re-steep) with more potential for spillage than when disposing a tea bag, then take the strainer to the sink, add a tiny drop of dish soap, rinse the strainer,…

Oh since we're nitpicking... :) > You need to take a spoon (extra tool), scoop out the loose leaf tea from the container I tilt the container and use the Earth's gravity to get them leaves out. I'm not afraid to use my fingers when no one's watching! With puerh it's more of a fight, I'm not afraid to use whatever's at my disposal to pry the leaves out the cake. > you need to dump the used leaves [...] with more poten…

> leaves can be composted while the tea bag can't

That depends on the tea bag. Some can't, some can:

https://teahow.com/can-tea-bags-be-composted/

The store-brand tea bags I buy for iced tea recently got redesigned to remove their staple. I assume that was to make them compostable, although I should double check.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by peterburkimsher »

nzealand wrote: post #596
this_is_eline wrote: post #462

While I believe that many things stated in this post are correct, this still has that hard 'old man yelling at the internet' odor. If you are to compare stuff, stuff like modern razor cartridges and double-edged razors, you ought to mention the convenience side of the things. I hate being the devil's advocate, but shaving with 4-blade cartridge designed for easy shaving is still 'miles' ahead compared to shaving with…

Shaving. It's not a religion. It's easy to experiment. 1. Don't shave. Grow a wild and wooly beard. 2. Electric clippers. For that permanent five o'clock shadow look. 3. Electric shaver. Easy. 4. Cartridge + foam. Smooth. 5. Double edge safety razor. Very smooth. Requires some skill. 6. Straight edge razor. Super smooth? No idea personally. 7. Laser. Also no idea personally. What this article completely misses, is th…

8. Surgical mask! Nobody knows if I shaved.

Also protects others from my bad breath, or recycles the chocolate smell. :-D

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by rat9988 »

eastbound wrote: post #826
ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #756

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>I live in France where class warfare is still a thing, and living in a block with people of the other ethnicity is unthinkable (they raped my goddaughter, but that’s only one example of storied - they kill gays at the train station too, so I take my car). Jesus, do you live in _Banlieue 13_ or something? "They" ("the other ethnicity", as you put it) did nothing to your goddaughter. A criminal, on the other hand, did…

> Jesus, do you live in _Banlieue 13_ or something? I live in the center of Lyon. The problem has grown bigger than you imagine. > Quite frankly, your comment exposes your racism. The one who did my goddaughter at the age of 7, I invited him home because I wasn’t racist. I couldn’t imagine they systematically raped the white girls when given the opportunity. I also couldn’t imagine police knew it and left him free de…

> They wouldn’t free a white guy.

You have read too much conspiracy websites I'm afraid.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by account-5 »

ok_dad wrote: post #856
ausbah wrote: post #855

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another option is to avoid th problem all together, I plan on getting laser hair removal on my face because I just hate shaving that much

Alternately just keep a beard and trim it with a 20 dollar buzzer occasionally.

I thought this, grew one, and found it more of a pain to maintain than shaving was. Flaky skin, itchy, and a lot of work to stop those things. Plus I still had to shave/buzz around it to make it neat. Shaving is a lot less hassle. I use a DR razor, have for years.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by rat9988 »

betwixthewires wrote: post #832
dghlsakjg wrote: post #825

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People should be called on their bullshit. And saying that an entire race is to be held responsible for a rape is bullshit. If it were a "white" person that had raped his god-daughter would he be clamoring to live in a different community. Without knowing this person, I can confidently say no based on the stereotypical racism in his outlook. Racial categories are a societal invention. They are completely made up and…

I don't think he mentioned race, I think the word he used was "ethnicity" which is inclusive of culture, and doesn't necessarily include race at all. Culture is a shorthand way of saying "behavioral trends within a self identifying community." You might say its a "dog whistle" for race, and you may be right, but we argue the point and take people at their word, in good faith, here. If I were a white person that lived…

> I don't think he mentioned race, I think the word he used was "ethnicity" which is inclusive of culture, and doesn't necessarily include race at all. Culture is a shorthand way of saying "behavioral trends within a self identifying community." You might say its a "dog whistle" for race, and you may be right, but we argue the point and take people at their word, in good faith, here.

Ethnicity in french is the equivalent of race in english, when we speak about human beings.

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Post by op00to »

waynesonfire wrote: post #806
mgraczyk wrote: post #680

I appreciate the writing style, but this article is shockingly naive to me. Convenient consumer products tend to sell better than less convenient ones, even if the product is worse. That's the entire story. People have finite time, so when they receive more income they will tend to spend it to reduce the time they spend doing things that they don't care about. I for one hate spending time doing all the things that th…

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Please don’t decrease SNR with personal attacks like this.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by op00to »

lolinder wrote: post #838
mgraczyk wrote: post #690

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> Just let it heat up before using it No lol that's the whole point > without the carcinogens. I'll take that trade, I'm not going to spend my 30s sitting around waiting for pans to heat up because there's some very small probability a pan will harm me.

> I'm not going to spend my 30s sitting around waiting for pans to heat up because there's some very small probability a pan will harm me. This strikes me as particularly ironic in the current context. How much time have you spent so far today arguing about pans on HN? How many times could you have heated up a cast iron skillet during that time?

Is the pan smoking at any point? Carcinogens. Are you using a gas cooker? They release harmful pollutants into the air. You don’t need to go over the top to convince people to like and do as you do when it comes to pans.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by chaps »

beloch wrote: post #834
mgraczyk wrote: post #680

I appreciate the writing style, but this article is shockingly naive to me. Convenient consumer products tend to sell better than less convenient ones, even if the product is worse. That's the entire story. People have finite time, so when they receive more income they will tend to spend it to reduce the time they spend doing things that they don't care about. I for one hate spending time doing all the things that th…

Modern trackball,flexing, etc. multi-blade razors are expensive, but idiot proof. You can copy one of the Gillette commercials and just mash the thing to your face and make one long stroke through the chemical foam. Bam. Done. If you're happy with this, be happy. Read no further. What this article isn't telling you is that DE razors can be almost as fast, but there's a learning curve. They don't flex, bend, or rotate…

On soap/shaving foam -- absolutely. I asked an old-timey barber what his product of choice was and he answered "soap after a shower", in awe, as if what I was asking him some obvious question. Sure enough, it worked fantastically and I haven't stopped since. I use a DE and beyond that first month of slice and dice and coagulant markers, it's been smooth sailing since.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by chasil »

function_seven wrote: post #861
omnicognate wrote: post #846

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most of us are used to chemical gel's or foams. Much better than these and shaving soap / brush, is Somerset's Shaving Oil[1]. King of Shaves do a shaving oil too, but it's nowhere near as good. Not affiliated, I just love the stuff. You can use it with shaving soap too, but I just use it on its own. At one point I was worried the company might go under so I bought a big box of it just in case. It's not a great bus…

Ok, your comment just convinced me to give my DE another go. For the last few months I've been using cheap plastic 2-blade disposables because they're cheap enough, and easier to use than the nice razor I've been ignoring. Just ordered some oil and balm from that site. ALSO: That order page is a breath of fresh air. As soon as I added one item to my "cart", I was presented with their full list of SKUs, enough info to…

I am on my second Panasonic (Matsushita) foil razor, and I will never use anything else.

The blades seem to be immortal, and they commonly last 5-10 years until the batteries fail. There are no regular consumables; the blades are never replaced.

I had used Norelco foil razors previous to this, and the foils would break after wear and slash my face, easily drawing blood. Neither of my Panasonic razors has ever done this.

I normally shave right after waking up, no shaving cream, lotion or sundry lubricant. If someone with extremely sensitive skin cannot do this, the shaver is waterproof.

This one looks close to my current model.

https://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Electric-ES8103S-Nanotech-F...

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