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HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

I have never owned a Mac anything but the addition of an SD card slot is making this seem very attractive to me. Conversely the latest Surface Pro eliminated its little hidden microSD card reader, seems inexcusable for a device marketed as "Pro" and has really put a damper on my desire to upgrade.

Who wants to take bets on the next Surface Pro restoring the reader?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

But that notch is kind of a really ugly blight on the face of an otherwise good looking update. Especially since it's lacking faceid or something equivalent to windows hello

I agree that the notch is a bit large to just be a 1080p webcam. I don’t hate it though, aesthetically. If the next iteration doesn’t have Face ID, I’ll be a bit annoyed. Seriously considering trading in my M1 MacBook Air for the 14”. Tim Cook really knows how to drain my accounts!

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I haven't been able to see if the DAC that powers the headphone port supports 24-bit/192 kHz yet. Being able to listen to Lossless audio without a USB DAC would be nice. It seems possible that Apple would add that since it's a feature of Apple Music Lossless.

During the video, they quickly mentioned that the jack supports high-impedance headphones and later specifically mention that you can connect “high-fidelity” headphones. Skip to about 33:30 in the video. So while nothing shows up on the spec page on their website, I wonder if they’re taking audio output more seriously.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

Agree- I have been largely disappointed by USB-C. It's been okay as a smaller USB-A replacement for flash drives and mice, but in general the lesson of USB-C is: just because it fits, doesn't mean it works. My personal favorite annoyance is how chargers and cables are advertised with the wattage they support, but it's really the voltage and current that matters. If you have a device that wants 20W as 9V/2.22A , your…

I'm dissappointed in USB in general, we have standards but it seems few follow standards. For example, I recently bought my wife an Asus ROG Falchion keyboard. Really tiny one with Zhuyin input.

So the connection is USB-C, but if you connect ANY USB-C cable to the keyboard, it wont charge. Even the USB-C USB-C cable that comes with iPad Pro doesn't charge it. So far of the ~20 cables I own that I've tried, the only cable that will charge it is the Asus provided cable...

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

> Both 14" and 16" have 254 PPI, up from ~220 Which also means they finally support more screen real estate at native 2x! Since 2016 the 13" MacBooks retained their 2560x1600 panels but shipped by default in a "looks like 1440x900" mode, which renders a 2880x1800 frame and does a non-integer scale down to the panel's native resolution, trading sharpness for extra space. I hate the slight fuzzy look so I run mine at n…

I have always been utterly baffled by Apple’s approach to high DPI. They ship some of the best panels around, and then they kneecap them by using the most idiotic scaling scheme imaginable that guarantees that it’s worse than a low resolution panel for some tasks that want precision and uglier on things like single pixel lines which crop up a lot in e.g. web content, because pixel precision is impossible. Microsoft managed to do it right (though mixed-DPI took a couple of attempts), despite having no real power over developers. Meanwhile, Apple, who are in a position to sternly tell their developers to do it right or their software will break (and do so far more frequently than Microsoft), … caved and did it terribly? And do they even support real mixed DPI, or do they just fake it by rendering at the higher scale and downsampling to the other?

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It's great Apple is changing course back to where they were in 2013. What sucks is that all those laptops built between 2013 and 2022 will be dogs on the used market. For my money, I'm getting the Framework latop and I'm going to bite the bullet and run (in order of preference) FreeBSD, NixOS, or some Linux (Ubuntu, probably). I'm tired of Apple's shit.

> FreeBSD, NixOS, or some Linux (Ubuntu, probably). I'm tired of Apple's shit. You're tired of Apple's "shit", so you want to build a laptop on top of hardware that cannot be taken to a store and replaced the same day (Apple) and install an OS like FreeBSD which is going to be rock solid but supported by virtually no one? I'm all up for FreeBSD and Linux - love them and have ran them both on laptops and desktops for…

Considering the framework laptop is the most user repairable laptop ever released, your comments are pretty confusing.

https://frame.work/marketplace

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A fair warning to developers: You're getting into an adventure with M1. From docker images not built for M1 with segmentation faults on qemu (eg. Liquibase for spring developers), to _significant_ troubles trying to make React native apps build with the M1 and XCode. Don't get me wrong, I have a Macbook air M1 and I love it, but it hasn't been a love without pain. Also, the magsafe feels like it comes too late. Almos…

I'm curious about the docker image situation. I had thought that the M1 could natively emulate x86 instructions. So why then can you not run the native x86 docker images? Is it a virtualisation issue?

It does, which is slow, then the disk emulation makes it slower. Yes you can do it, but it’s not much fun.

Improvements are on the way.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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I was excited to replace my 2017 MBP with a new model that has a decent keyboard and old-school features like multiple kinds of ports and an SD card slot. With a starting price of $2000, I don’t know that I’m going to pull the trigger right now. My guess is this is a sign of a supply chain crunch, and they are maximizing profit instead of revenue, which makes sense. Still disappointing that getting these basic-seemin…

The 13” is the base Pro.
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