Facebook-owned sites were down • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by ewalk153 » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

FearNotDaniel wrote: post #828

still_grokking wrote: post #669

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the same problem as when GMail goes down and Googlers can't reach each other? I guess good decentralized public communication services could solve those issues for everybody.

Anyone remember the 90s? There was this thing called the Information Superhighway, a kind of decentralised network of networks that was designed to allow robust communications without a single point of failure. I wonder what happened to that...?

Folks are still chatting here... seems to work as designed...

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by jfrunyon » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:08 PM UTC

john37386 wrote: post #851

robalfonso wrote: post #827

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This is not completely accurate. The whole reason a registrar with domain abc.com can use ns1.abc.com is because glue records are established at the registry, this allows a bootstrap that keeps you in from a circular dependency. All that said it’s usually a bad idea, for someone as large as Facebook they should have nameservers across zones ie a.ns.fb.com b.ns.fb.org c.ns.fb.co Etc…

There is always a step which involve to email the domain when a domain update its information with the registrar. In this case, facebook.com and registrarsafe.com are managed by the same NS. You need these NS to query the MX to send that update approval by email and unblock the registrar update. Glue records are more for performance than to make that loop. I'm maybe missing something but, hopefully they won't need to…

I have literally never once received an email to confirm a domain change. Perhaps the only exception is on a transfer to another registrar (though I can't recall that occurring, either).

To be fair, we did have to get an email from eurid recently for a transfer auth code, but that was only because our registrar was not willing to provide.

In any case, no, they will not need to send an email to fix this issue.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by DebtDeflation » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:11 PM UTC

I assume all of the tertiary sites that use "Login with Facebook" are broken now too? So glad I never adopted that.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by pmlittle » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:11 PM UTC

This is all total left brain looping and complexity coming home to roost.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by quattrofan » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:12 PM UTC

And right now, the world is a slightly better place

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by Redoubts » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:13 PM UTC

peanut_worm wrote: post #857

I am sure it is just a symptom of the Facebook outage, but it seems like every website I am going on is slower than usual today.

I've seen a couple fail to log in, because their SSO is broken through this. (even if FB login is merely an option)

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by EGreg » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:14 PM UTC

Telegram seems down too, is it down for you?

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by victor9000 » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:14 PM UTC

laurent92 wrote: post #815

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #402

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Imagine having the a huge portion of the digital world internationally riding on your shoulders...

Imagine that guy has this big npm repository locally with all those dodgy libraries with uncontrolled origin, in their /lib/node_modules with root permissions. Wait, we all do, here.

You can use a custom npm prefix to avoid the mess you're describing. So basically:

See current prefix:

> npm config get prefix

Set prefix to something you can write to without sudo:

> npm config set prefix /some/custom/path

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by pmlittle » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:16 PM UTC

This is all left brain implimentation with looping and classic complexity coming home to roost. As we move through time, we build off of solutions of the past which are solving a problem, but complexity keeps adding on and this is a classic programming/computer science delemma.

Re: Facebook-owned sites were down

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Post by Edman274 » Mon, Oct 04, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

CommieBobDole wrote: post #791

lbruder wrote: post #772

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Looks like they misconfigured a web interface that they can't reach anymore now that they're off the net. "anyone have a Cisco console cable lying around?"

The only one they have is serial and the company's one usb-to-serial converter is missing.

The voices, stories, announcements, photos, hopes and sorrows of millions, no, literally billions of people, and the promise that they may one day be seen and heard again now rests in the hands of Dave, the one guy who is closest to a Microcenter, owns his own car and knows how to beat the rush hour traffic and has the good sense to not forget to also buy an RS-232 cable, since those things tend to get finicky.