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Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by Yizahi »

chaps wrote: post #838
rtkwe wrote: post #632

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For moving containers off the best bet would probably be heavy lift choppers, the ship is large enough you could have several working on it at once and then just drop them off nearby to be loaded onto barges or something. A huge undertaking but it any weight taken off the Evergreen is less digging they have to do and the time is so expensive. Also it's less middle of nowhere there's a pretty large airbase nearby it l…

Like the OP said, folks really aren't understanding the scale of this problem.. If they manage to do a single crate per minute, that's still just under seven days to do them all. An empty forty foot shipping container on its own weighs about four tons and their max supported weight is 33.5 tons, so the problem is somewhere in between for every single container . A Mi-26 helicopter, a "heavy transport helicopter" can…

And one per minute is wildly optimistic. I guess it would be more like 20 minutes per container, which will result in a year of offloading 24/7, which is also impossible due to low resource time of helicopter engines and airframe in general (and pilot stress too).

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by sneak »

brian_cloutier wrote: post #786
Mockapapella wrote: post #727

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When and where did they exist for a limited period of time? It never even occurred to me that this was an option

The first European joint-stock corporations were for single voyages. Everyone would band together and fund a ship to go somewhere, then split the earnings and dissolve the corporation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint-stock_company#Early_join...

It's pretty much still like that now, except the last step is "go work for Google for a few years in golden handcuffs".

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by tim333 »

tilolebo wrote: post #826

The pandemic needs to stop ASAP so we can throw a Burning Man Middle East Edition next to that ship. Days of partying in the desert, opening random containers, driving little excavators. What a blast it would be!

The covid regs in Egypt are pretty relaxed if you want to give it a go.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by tim333 »

acd10j wrote: post #716

Some of the news stories like this: https://nypost.com/2021/03/24/giant-container-ship-blocking-... are claiming that ship is partially free, what does it mean ? I am confused ....

I think there were some false reports. It's still stuck.

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by kzrdude »

hunter2_ wrote: post #601
samizdis wrote: post #260

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> Some people have suggested unloading the ship. I don't think you realize the infrastructure required to unload a ship. It seems, though, that a partial unloading is being considered by a professional in the field according to quotes in an article in The Guardian [1]: However, Peter Berdowski, CEO of Boskalis, a specialist dredging company that has sent a crew to the scene, said data so far suggested “it is not real…

Perhaps the classic beached whale clearing technique [0] would work. [0] https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34

Thank you, it's also a time capsule preserving the "hw" pronunciation of whale. (Which seems to be slowly disappearing.)

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by fogihujy »

suzzer99 wrote: post #498
nabla9 wrote: post #263

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Lloyd's List estimated that every day Suez is closed costs US$9 billion ($400 million per hour). If it could be done technically and open up the canal, it would be cheaper for insurance companies to buy the ship, it's cargo, buy all nearby property and then blow the whole ship up.

It makes you wonder if anyone has an old aircraft carrier they'd be willing to use as a battering ram. Try to hit it towards the bow to dislodge it.

And if that ram breaks you'll not just have a giant container ship stuck there, but a bloody aircraft carrier as well. :D

Re: Is that ship still stuck?

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Post by aardvark179 »

blhack wrote: post #39

I don't think people are giving enough credit to how stuck the ship is. Look at some of the photos of the front of it. Look at how far out of the water it is sitting. The ship might look like that if it were totally empty, but not when it is full of containers like this. Some people saying: just drag it off of the sand. Okay! And what happens when that causes you to rip a hole into the hull of the ship? Now it's real…

Depending on the design and bulk heads ripping a hole in the hull can be an option. My father was a naval architect and did some work re-floating container ships and I know they did this on at least one occasion and got the ship up the west coast of Africa, past Spain and Portugal, and through the English Channel. They would have stopped earlier but the ship yards en route jacked up their prices because they assumed there was no other choice.

The interesting thing for me is going to be where that ship goes if they manage to re-float it.

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