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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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grawprog wrote: post #837
ibrault wrote: post #793

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I have not seen any indication that private messages are included in this. As the person indicates, phone numbers are only included if they were posted on Parler by the users themselves, but yes from what I can tell the IDs are the most "private" part of the leak. Although one could argue that they are still "public" given that Parler publicly exposed the information.

I have to point out. Messages being leaked is actually in the title of the article. >70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by binaryblitz »

binaryblitz wrote: post #683
da_big_ghey wrote: post #236

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The point is that finding a vuln and investigating it to the extent required to prove it works is security researcher behavior. Actually exploiting it and dumping all of a site's user data is malicious. If he had leaked stuff relevant to the capitol riots or something, maybe understandable, though using the vuln to do so would still have been wrong.

Just as a friendly heads up, @donk_enby used she/her pronouns.

Wow. Downvoted to negative for politely correcting pronoun usage.

Not sure what I should've expected given the average user of HN.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by brown9-2 »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #39

When you purposefully leak private data, you no longer get to hide behind the title "Security Researcher".

It sounds like Parler is responsible for the leaking, if they truly had no authentication requirements on their API endpoints.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by VikingCoder »

sanedigital wrote: post #800
VikingCoder wrote: post #501

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> The data is public now—if you're so certain, go find me a single post on Parler calling for mass executions. Easily done: https://imgur.com/gallery/nHb2lO8 Some of these are Verified users - Parler has their Drivers License and Social Security number, and yet they still felt secure in brazenly violating the law like this.

Sorry, I should have clarified: find me a post that wasn't moderated away. Lin Wood's post was: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/politics/parler-lin-wood-... Unfortunately the service is down, but I would imagine that other post was removed as well.

No, I do not accept that you are "clarifying." You are intentionally moving the goal-posts.

The question we were discussing was whether or not many of the USERS are calling for mass executions.

I provided ample evidence, despite your "find me a single post" challenge.

Now we might want to engage in a different discussion, about whether Parler was correctly moderating that content. But that is not a "clarification," that's a new topic.

I do not have access to information about how long content was allowed to remain before it was removed. Do you?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by rootusrootus »

frankfrankfrank wrote: post #849
rootusrootus wrote: post #818

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I feel bad for normal conservatives. They clearly exist, but they're getting quiet because the brand is severely tarnished right now. Then the only people talking are the Trump supporters, and the loop is reinforced.

I think you are mistaking something. Conservatism is not a brand. But what you are referring to is actually the vilification of the people who insist on wanting to keep (something they see as a right) what they have and built or was built for them by people who freely gave it to them. I suspect your misunderstanding of what conservatism is, is also a driving force that will destabilize things further because it is su…

Interesting, are there lots of people who see it in these terms? It's very favorable to conservatives, and not so much to liberals, which leads me to suspect it is more wishful thinking than an accurate depiction of partisan politics. It looks a lot like what I'd expect someone to write if they weren't arguing in good faith, but were in fact playing this discussion like a team sport.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by saagarjha »

mkl wrote: post #736
hertzrat wrote: post #720

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Hackernews starts you off shadowbanned too. It’s a way to ward off spammers and bots. I know because this account started off shadow banned for 1-2 weeks until I had made 5-10 posts. Edit: Why in earth is this getting downvoted so heavily? Every new account everyone I know ever made was shadow banned at first

HN doesn't start users shadow banned - just look for the green new-account usernames. Your account didn't start shadow banned either. Here's your first comment, visible to all: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25410162 New accounts are more likely to get shadow banned, especially if they post many comments with links or post inflammatory remarks.

Hacker News does start off many people with a shadowban–I know because I have vouched for many of these initial comments.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by jandrese »

vbezhenar wrote: post #759
thebigman433 wrote: post #750

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I think the difference is that r/politics doesnt actually ban you for posting something conservative, its just the users deciding they dont like it. I dont use it either way due to their horrible link rules, but there is definitely a difference in my opinion.

You're silenced by moderators or you're silenced by users. I don't see much difference in the end.

Have you ever considered the notion that maybe your views are unpopular? Possibly even misinformed?

Maybe if everyone disagrees with something you say, it's not the rest of the world's fault?

Are you Principal Skinner going "Am I so out of touch? No, it is the children who are wrong."

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by notyourwork »

MattGaiser wrote: post #600
notyourwork wrote: post #401

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When I interview candidates and their solution encounters an unexpected condition I typically park the original question to temporarily discuss how to handle this exception. This and more generally their thoughts on how to handle other types of unexpected scenarios is an important part of delivering real world solutions. I'm shocked by the amount of engineers that don't have any thoughts on this topic.

It is an important part of delivering real world solutions. How often is it a part of being hired to deliver real world solutions?

I'm not sure I understand the question. In my mind, if you cannot reason through how to handle non-expected things in your code, I'm going to think twice about hiring you. Code being able to account for erroneous situations is as important as your golden path because as we know software should be predictable but regularly is not. Especially so in the world of micro-services where so many integration paths are changing and in flux.

Are you suggesting we should only interview candidates to code the happy case and not consider how they will reason through what to do when the input isn't what they expected or a dependency fails to produce results?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by notyourwork »

monksy wrote: post #616
notyourwork wrote: post #401

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When I interview candidates and their solution encounters an unexpected condition I typically park the original question to temporarily discuss how to handle this exception. This and more generally their thoughts on how to handle other types of unexpected scenarios is an important part of delivering real world solutions. I'm shocked by the amount of engineers that don't have any thoughts on this topic.

The popular way of quizing developers during the interview has more about throwaway leetcode than experience. What you're digging for is about their experience. To me, what you're finding comes at no shock. The industry has been punishing people with experience and willing to show it for years.

I think it depends on level you're interviewing at. New college hires rarely have much a clue about this but engineers and senior engineers should be able to have a conversation about it. To be fair because of time constraint, I don't have candidates code this but do want to entertain the discussion. For example, what happens if i pass "illegalValue" to your method, or what do you think your solution should do when the service dependency you call fails to return.

The sentiment is important because it shows how a candidate ties the requirements to the customer use case that it is serving. Not being able to connect these two is a concern in my mind especially for those who are not new college hires with little real world experiemnce.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by wrs »

julianmarq wrote: post #692
wrs wrote: post #675

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The use of the term “censorship” is itself a negative signal, as it preempts useful discussion by imposing a false dichotomy. There’s no feasible zero-censorship scenario (see “yelling fire in a crowded theater”, etc.) so pretty much everyone is “pro-censorship” to some degree. But pretty much no one wants preapproval of every utterance either, so everyone is also “anti-censorship”. If you see someone talking about “…

> But pretty much no one wants preapproval of every utterance either, so everyone is also “anti-censorship”. I've seen people arguing that the concept of free speech is "outdated" and that societies that hold it are "doomed to collapse", just as an example of what I meant in my first comment. > so pretty much everyone is “pro-censorship” to some degree Please, don't. You're arguing against an extreme of my comment in…

Do you see how by using the word “censorship” as if it were a unitary concept with an agreed-upon meaning, you have made it difficult to continue this conversation?

I didn’t present any position at all other than saying that neither extreme is realistic — which I think you actually agree with. But you’re trying to argue with me anyway.

I was just trying to answer your question on how to recognize a more nuanced and productive discussion: look for people arguing about specific behaviors; avoid people arguing over the definition of the word “censorship”.

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