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My Resignation from the Intercept

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Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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All: don't miss that there are multiple pages of comments in this thread. That's what the More link at the bottom points to. Or click here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24933054&p=2

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24933054&p=3

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24933054&p=4

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure and as an op-ed, the journal itself makes a decision whether it wants to front that opinion. The journal has stopped being close to Mr. Greenwald's perspective. Sure, maybe they changed the rules on him since it had become their publication. But that's a King Lear story, not a journalism story. "You broke your promise that I'd have unlimited publication rights" is a sad story of broken promises but it's not a st…

Glenn said he also tried to publish it somewhere else and they forbid him from doing so, even though his contract says he has the right to publish stuff elsewhere if The Intercept doesn't want it.

They said "Our intention in sending the memo was for you to revise the story for publication. [...] It would be unfortunate and detrimental to The Intercept for this story to be published elsewhere."

That's not forbidding him from publishing it, it's expressing regret that he appears to be unwilling to address the editor's comments on his draft.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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This is why the Economist, FT and the WSJ still have a somewhat positive reputation. They're expensive and tend to write about things that are important, not sensational. All other publications are slowly falling victim to the parametdynamicser of the entertainment game, including ones that were also in that bracket not long ago. Mind you I'm not saying WaPo and NYT are trash now, they did start with a high rep and t…

The Economist is quickly losing that reputation. I cancelled my subscription. The FT is still pretty good, though they shy away from anything critical of powerful corporations/individuals.

While they are very much in the neo-liberal Anglo-American bent, they still provide the most eclectic and readable collection of global stories in one format.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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It's most perplexing why Greenwald is being treated as some kind of liberal why he is clearly a conservative nutjob. Supporting Iraq war, going on to Tucker Carlson show, excusing Trump on every possible angle.

Is it all just because of grooming the Snowden case?

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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There seems to be a premise in the USA that if Russia has a hand in true information coming to light, the bigger story is about Russia's hand in it, and not the information itself.

This narrative has been seen a lot, and often times it is invoked as the default narrative whenever things are being claimed in a particular political direction.

I would like to question this at a fundamental level. At what point does the information itself become pertinent? Shouldn't the information itself, if true, always be the focus of the story? If the information is unverified, shouldn't there be some attempt to verify it? If it cannot be verified - then it's probably best to dismiss it, but if people involved in the situation start coming forward to verify the context of the information, shouldn't it merit further investigation?

There is this guy - Tony Bobulinski. He's a navy veteran from a family of veterans and he's pretty much coming forward to say that the emails are all true. In his absence, it's ambiguous, but now that's come forward, why is there still hesitation to take this story seriously?

Frankly I find it difficult to believe that there is no coordinated media attempt to silence this story because at a personal level many of them want to cover up anything that makes one candidate look bad.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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WSJ has pretty biased opinion section though where they have almost no standards.

The great thing about biased opinion in a financial newspaper is that if you trade based on that opinion, chances are you'll lose money. From 2008 through 2016, WSJ opinion hammered on the supposed fiscal recklessness of the US federal government, warned that inflation and interest rates would skyrocket, and fretted about bond vigilantes. If you traded on this opinion and shorted long-term bonds, you would have lost…

It makes complete sense to me to not be honest with your opinion on economic predictions. It would be insider trading light. And if you could broadcast misinformation to a broader public of traders...

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Lots of people here weighing in with their 2c about the authenticity of the data, but why is everyone arguing about this?

Sure, we the technologically savvy people have the means to verify the digital authenticity of these files/emails/documents. But we don't have access to them (and likely won't). So we can't actually claim one way or the other for sure until we do.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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The first two of the three hours of him being a guest on Joe Rogan yesterday were brilliant. I've never heard someone so eloquently tear down the shiny facades of what passes as high-brow "journalism" these days.

Or just a bitter man being kicked out of the club?

I think the Rogen interview opened his eyes up to the possibilities in the world of podcasting (more so than maybe talking with Matt Taibbi who's just getting started).

I honestly think that interview gave him the courage to take the leap - and was not at all surprised to hear he resigned today.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Glenn Greenwald is a Pulitzer prize winning journalist. He broke the Snowden story--another sensational-sounding scoop which likely sounded like total bullshit at first. Is it possible that Mr. Greenwald is a better judge of whether or not there is a story here?

Here’s what his own (ex-) colleagues say: > We have the greatest respect for the journalist Glenn Greenwald used to be, and we remain proud of much of the work we did with him over the past six years. It is Glenn who has strayed from his original journalistic roots, not The Intercept. https://theintercept.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-resigns-...

It would have been much better if they responded to the factual claims Greenwald laid out in the article they refused to publish. I read that article, and his argument for why the Biden emails pass at least the plausibility bar sound reasonable.

BTW, the DKIM signature on at least one of the emails has been verified:

https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/hunter-dkim

EDIT: OK, rather than downvoting, which isn't going to change my mind, why don't you help address his points? If you change my mind, I'll go try to change other people's minds.

"The Hunter Biden documents have at least as much verification as those other archives [the Panama Papers, Wikileaks war logs, Podesta / DNC emails from 2016] that were widely reported. There are sources in the email chains who have verified that the published emails are accurate. The archive contains private photos and videos of Hunter whose authenticity is not in doubt. A former business partner of Hunter has stated, unequivocally and on the record, that not only are the emails authentic but they describe events accurately, including proposed participation by the former Vice President in at least one deal Hunter and Jim Biden were pursuing in China. And, most importantly of all, neither Hunter Biden nor the Biden campaign has even suggested, let alone claimed, that a single email or text is fake."

Add to that that at least one email has had its DKIM signature verified (see the link above).

I hate Trump and think a second term would be an unmitigated disaster for our democracy. Even if the worst of the allegations or insinuations were true I think Biden would be better for our country than Trump. If I were an editor of a newspaper, I'd certainly think twice before publishing something like this, even if I thought they were accurate.

But I would never throw shade on a fellow journalist for writing something like this. And as a voter, if I'm going to choose the lesser of two evils, I want to know just how evil the lesser one is.

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