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Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reignites bias claims

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Post by remarkEon »

rch wrote: post #714
CivBase wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this constitute hacking? The repair shop almost certainly retains ownership of unclaimed deviced after some period of time. The shop owns the laptop. The data is theirs to do with as they please and they chose to publish it (at least, that's the story). No hacking necessary.

Not following the details of the story, but has anyone suggested that Hunter dropped off the laptop himself? Stealing a laptop and causing a bit of damage to initiate a costly repair, then leaving it with a shop under an assumed name seems like a solid Mitnick-level hack to me.

I think the most likely scenario is that he went on a bender (he has well known substance abuse problems) and locked himself out, dropped it off to get it fixed, and forgot about it. This seems much more plausible than some of the other extremely complex theories which assume that, ahem, Rudy Gulianni (of all people) was able to plan a years long scam to procure this particular computer.

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Post by 0xB31B1B »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #824
eitland wrote: post #735

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Twitters official policy is to not allow publication of hacked material or information with Personally Identifying Information - and this material was hacked and had unredacted personal email addresses I think the idea is that if this is the rule, a lot of Republicans think it has already been broken a number of times against them.

Do you have any examples of someone's non-public contact information being shared without a response? Their guidelines permit discussion and linking to press stories of hacks provided they don't include someone’s private information, information that could put people at risk of physical harm or danger; and/or information related to trade secrets.

Trump shared Lindsey Graham’s phone number on Twitter during the 2016 election primary.

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Post by chithanh »

dragonwriter wrote: post #807
ycombonator wrote: post #806

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Their policy didn’t stop them from allowing millions of tweets related to unverified Trump taxes, debunked pee dossier and other Democratic talking points. This is straight up election interference.

> This is straight up election interference. How is a domestic firm exercising it's Constitutionally-protected free press rights “interference”?

Twitter and Facebook are not just any domestic firms, they do control a major part of social media. They may not have a legal responsibility to hold every post to the same standards, but if they enforce their policies selectively on political grounds, that should surely raise some eyebrows.

Anyway, if Twitter/Facebook ever had the intention to stop dissemination of that NY Post article, it surely backfired.

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Post by dyslexicfletchr »

crazygringo wrote: post #379

> However, it is highly unusual for an article published by one of the mainstream popular newspapers to be treated in this way. That's a bit of a stretch. The NY Post is a tabloid [1]. Tabloids are technically newspapers, but they aim primarily to sensationalize [2]. Tabloids are nothing like the NY Times or Washington Post, which attempt to present objective, unbiased news. (Now you may argue that they fail at that…

It reeks of being fabricated too. Who uses v.pozharskyi.ukraine at gmail when vadym.pozharskyi at gmail is unused? Is there a cultural thing where avoiding the first name in an email address would be normal? I grabbed the latter about an hour ago.

I think it's sketchy to have `ukraine` in the email address given the effort to push the "ukraine scandal" as a thing.

https://pastebin.com/yF7ZvS3m

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Post by barbacoa »

Robotbeat wrote: post #371
CivBase wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this constitute hacking? The repair shop almost certainly retains ownership of unclaimed deviced after some period of time. The shop owns the laptop. The data is theirs to do with as they please and they chose to publish it (at least, that's the story). No hacking necessary.

That isn’t a credible argument. Why would Hunter Biden, whose dad is running for President, leave his laptop at a Trump-supporting discount computer repair shop without paying with (supposedly) incriminating emails on it? It’s so convoluted... it only makes sense if you wanted to fabricate cover for illegally hacking someone’s data (or more likely, modified and/or falsified data) and releasing it. As it is, the compu…

Why would you smoke crack when you know the navy would drug test you?

Why would you knock up a stripper while cheating on your dead brothers widow who you were also dating?

How the contents of that laptop made their way to the news is a bizarre story. But that dude also made some bizarre decisions.

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Post by ALittleLight »

nobody9999 wrote: post #323
CivBase wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this constitute hacking? The repair shop almost certainly retains ownership of unclaimed deviced after some period of time. The shop owns the laptop. The data is theirs to do with as they please and they chose to publish it (at least, that's the story). No hacking necessary.

>How does this constitute hacking? IIUC, the idea is that the whole thing was a setup from start to finish: 1. Burisma emails were hacked; 2. Hunter Biden's iCloud account was hacked; 3. They bought a Mac, dumped a bunch of the hacked photos, along with some real hacked emails and some forged ones; 4. Sent someone over to the computer shop with the frame up on the laptop already in place; 5. Either the store owner wa…

"I sure hope this computer repairmen scans the data of our abandoned computer, realizes what it contains, and turns the data over to Rudy Giuliani or equivalent."

If the store owner was in on it, then he's taking a heckuva gamble on this working out right, with relatively little (known) reward.

The claimed story seems simpler.

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Post by donmcronald »

giardini wrote: post #508
ffggvv wrote: post #105

so many stories about trump are later proven to be fake or unsubstantiated such as the russian bounties, that he owes money to russia, the steele dossier etc... and his tax returns were also stolen or hacked yet ofc they aren’t censored

ffggvv says >"so many stories about trump are later proven to be fake or unsubstantiated such as the russian bounties, that he owes money to russia, the steele dossier etc... and his tax returns were also stolen or hacked" By now you should understand the Democratic Party's news cycle: a) Make up a message (something, anything bad) and present it to the press as a Presidential abomination, b) Get Democratically-favor…

So where are you finding out the truth about all this stuff? I'd love to have an unbiased news source to rely on.

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Post by Const-me »

tossAfterUsing wrote: post #586
snowwrestler wrote: post #275

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It's 100% inline with free speech to let a given website decide what they want to publish. Even if it is a very popular website. If they make bad decisions, then people can go to competitors; it's as easy as typing in a different URL. That's how the Internet--and open societies in general--are supposed to work. What it looks like to me--someone who has been on the Internet since before the turn of the century--is tha…

> .... and they came to believe that these very popular websites are somehow inherent to the Internet and to society in general. They're not. Amen. And my feeling is that we would be better off without them. This is why i'm in favor of slow computing, slower network speeds, and slower lifestyles. (I should state that this is not sarcasm)

Agree on lifestyle, but not computing.

Modern 4k monitors are awesome. Need a fast computer to drive them.

My phone shoots 20 megapixels photos. I only post them on social media once in a year or so, but have cloud backups and I need bandwidth for that. I watch movies sometimes, Blu-ray ain’t available at local physical retail, again need internet bandwidth and local storage.

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Post by 99_00 »

prudhvis wrote: post #223

I have no idea what happened during the early 2010s. I grew up during the late 90s (born in late 80s) learning about the internet and its philosophies. Allowing Free speech still is the hill I'd like to die on. But the new generation of people, even here on HN and the internet hacker personalities I used to align with have turned so pro-censorship that I don't believe I'm in a proper reality/timeline anymore.

Millennia's took over, is what happened. Welcome to the future.

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Post by wang_li »

sangnoir wrote: post #185

Why is everyone ignoring @jack's official explanation for why Twitter blocked the specific link from being shared? This is the one falsifiable action Twitter clearly took. Twitters official policy is to not allow publication of hacked material or information with Personally Identifying Information - and this material was hacked and had unredacted personal email addresses. I haven't seen any reasonable arguments again…

It wasn’t hacked. It was left at a computer repair shop then never picked up or paid for.
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