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14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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> we don't need University of Phoenix brought to elementary schools. I realize that from your perspective, the world if full of imbeciles ... but just for a second, consider that {insert for-profit college name} is providing a service that people want and that's why people are choosing it. Those people don't care how the money they are paying is divvied up afterward. Whether it goes into the pocket of some administra…

> If we had an education system that as a whole, gave people what they wanted, we would all be better off. Because a teacher's job is customer service and the customer is always right? ;)

> Because a teacher's job is customer service and the customer is always right? ;)

Yes?

Good customer service is making sure the customer walks away happy in the long-term. Sometimes you do that by giving homework and tests. They might be miserable in the moment, but they'll be happy in the long-term.

Viewing students as customers may not be ideal, but it's certainly better than seeing them as a burden.

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Of course the difference here is Woz both fully intended mischief, knew he could get in trouble, but in general had the expectation that he would get away with it in the long term.

Ahmed will "get away with it in the long term" as well. He will probably be even better off after this episode. He is going to have the attention of all sorts of great people including the president. But of course that isn't particularly the problem here. When something like this comes up and catches our attention, there is outrage until that specific situation is fixed. We all pat ourselves on the back for helping t…

There will be some change. Maybe not as much as there should be, but we shouldn't completely discount the effects this story will have. Next time a school administrator or police officer is about to abuse a kid for no good reason, they might pause and think, "Wait, what if this gets me in the national news like those guys in Texas?"

It's not going to stop all of them. Or most of them. Or even a whole lot of them. But there are going to be a few people reevaluating their approach.

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In my school district[0] teachers start at $43,500 and max out at $63,688 (after 30 years and a PhD) You can pick up some extra stipends if you coach or work in certian departments (STEM) but good luck getting into 6 digits as a Teacher. When I taught in Massachusetts (where we have a teacher union)[1] pay starts at $36,400 and maxes out at $74,000 (with a PhD) after 19 years. Turns out that public school salary info…

Well, you can easily look up NYC teacher salaries. They start at $50k and go up to $105k. http://schools.nyc.gov/NR/rdonlyres/2712AB02-A1EF-4CE2-B879-... When you take into account the shorter work day/work year http://www.uft.org/new-teachers/your-work-day-and-year really good benefits, including a $50-$60k a year pension ( http://www.empirecenter.org/publications/pension-calculator/ ) and essentially tenure...well,…

Let's talk about the teacher's work day.

Your link says it's 6 hours and 55 minutes, including lunch. So 6 hours and 25 minutes is a work day.

Plus there's 150 minutes a week (2 and a half hours, or 30 minutes per day) for training, professional development, teacher collaboration, parent engagement and other professional activities.

150 minutes for all of that is a joke, and if any teacher was actually following that rule (union or not) then you'd be hearing about it.

What are "other professional activities?

Students that need extra help? Students that need to make up work/tests? Grading homework/tests/quizzes

I have about 150 students. If I give a test, that's 150 tests to grade. If it takes me 1 minute to grade each test, then I've just blown that entire quota of "other professional activities"

But I still do my job.

I grade all those 150 tests. Then I grade the homework that I gave all those students. Then I write my lesson plans for the next classes and I write the next test. And I email/call parents. And I meet with parents. And I see students before/after school to answer their questions and have them make up their work and tests. And I answer emails from students that have questions about their homework.

I spend 6 hours and 25 minutes a day teaching. I spend plenty more time making sure students learn.

But at least I get summer vacation, right? Sure, it's just full of mandatory Professional Development (so I can keep my teacher license up to date) and lesson planning for the next year.

But hey, in New York you can make up to $105k! After 22 years AND earning a PhD (which you paid for with your own money ... and where did you find the time to get that degree?) Rent in NY is 3x rent where I live, but the max $105k isn't even 3x the starting salary of my school district.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Why is he handcuffed?

IANAL, I guess it's simply a mandatory protocol for arresting somebody. US police apparently handcuff every people they arrest[1]. [1] https://www.quora.com/Why-do-American-police-always-handcuff...

Handcuffs also make it harder to run effectively.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Biological father. His (adoptive) father was white, and Jobs didn't look middle eastern , the key part. There's a whole spectrum of skin tones within ethnicities that affects how you are treated in the US more than where your parents originate.

His (adoptive) father was white, and Jobs didn't look middle eastern, the key part. This shows your lack of knowledge of the Middle-East. People in Syria/Lebanon look extremely different from the people in Saudi Arabia. They just happen to speak the same language (heck the accent is quite different too)

Steve Jobs didn't look Middle Eastern in the same way that this kid's clock looked like a bomb. Which is to say, it's not true, but "looks like" often depends on what the observer thinks a thing is.

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Texas doesn't deserve this young man. Come on up to Seattle.

By all means, paint 20 million people with the same brush.

You make it sound like Texas has no other stories about a regressive education system.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Stupidity does not adequately explain why they are considering bringing charges of a "hoax bomb", or sent this letter home with the other students: http://www.irvingisd.net/cms/lib010/TX01917973/Centricity/Do... [PDF] Therefore, malice.

Ignorance easily explains this unfortunate, embarrassing incident. The boy's father is from Sudan and is well known for being outspoken against anti-Islamic policies. To an unworldly south/midwesterner that spells "potential terrorist". It's not too much of a stretch to see that diagnosis extended to the son.

Ignorance that was likely being exploited for political purposes. As in, his father probably encouraged his son to do this. The father knew that it would likely cause someone to freak out, student or teacher; that it beeped helped and even better that it was in a metal case. There was no reason to bring the item in, let alone a the week of 9/11.

The school admins reacted as stereo typically badly as they could have hoped. It should have been assessed quickly and immediately removed from the school. Instead it just got stupid quick.

So this father will now get images of himself with his son with our President. We get some immediate attention to the horrible plight of Muslims in America (there isn't any horrible plight other than some people don't trust them)....

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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"What are you doing out?" "Walking," said Leonard Mead. "Walking!" "Just walking," he said simply, but his face felt cold. "Walking, just walking, walking?" "Yes, sir." "Walking where? For what?" "Walking for air. Walking to see." "Your address!" "Eleven South Saint James Street." "And there is air in your house, you have an air conditioner, Mr. Mead?" "Yes." "And you have a viewing screen in your house to see with?"…

Until I got to "viewing screen" I thought this was going to be a transcript of some real police encounter. (I didn't notice "but his face felt cold.")
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