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Re: More questions about whether researchers can trust OpenAI with unpublished math

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Post by wiei »

csallen wrote: post #845
wiei wrote: post #651

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah not 0%. But firms will start paying attention and the likelihood is we will see revenue's stagnate (not growing as fast) in short order as a result of it. When people start having to be careful over a lot of stuff, they'll decide not to use it in the first place.

> Inside just about every company on the planet are conversations this week revisiting the idea of giving these labs access to ANY data This claim is just so dramatically far from the truth that it's hard to believe y'all aren't living in a fantasy land. This seems much more aligned with the world this commenter wants to exist rather than the world that actually does exist.

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Re: More questions about whether researchers can trust OpenAI with unpublished math

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Post by fc417fc802 »

munksbeer wrote: post #796
keeda wrote: post #632

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But by OpenAI's telling they heard a rumor that the problem had already been solved. So they reached out to the other researchers as an attempt to share the credit, and in fact have at least one of them be the lead author (which is when they found out the AI had solved a broader problem than the researchers.) Seems pretty ethically palatable. I suspect the main reason the community is not receiving it well is largely…

Hold on, you've just ignored the point of the post you're responding to. What isn't being received well is hearing that others are close to publishing on a solution to a problem, so quickly using your power imbalance (millions of USD and access to way better models) to front run this. Even if their model wasn't trained on the conversations, this is just a dick thing to do. That's it, that's why it isn't being receive…

Actually you're the one ignoring a key point of the post you're responding to. The claim (which granted you might not believe) is that openai understood the problem to have already been solved. They also claim to have been attempting to avoid front running the pending publication as well.
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