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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by whoiskazar »

alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

you can easily install some linux distros on macbook. and from my experience, my macbook with m4 pro runs better than laptops with intel u7 and u9, which I use at work.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by Crestwave »

mgaunard wrote: post #842
alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

I don't think Linux nor macOS changed significantly during that period. I think what changed is that you got better at Linux. Leveled-up, so to speak.

Haven't they? Tahoe was released which had quite a negative reception, widely considered a regression in terms of performance and UI/UX, while Linux has been gaining significant traction (especially in the gaming space).

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by fladd »

rowanG077 wrote: post #748
hedora wrote: post #704

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Linux has been going down hill, but since you can choose distributions, there is an escape hatch. I’ve been moving all my machines to devuan with xfce (or freebsd with xfce). I have zero issues despite not having to deal with wayland, systemd, snap, etc.

I could not disagree more. I have been using linux for about 15 years. Linux is better now than it ever was.

To me, Linux was at its peak around 2005-2010. From then on it went downhill, unfortunately.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by asimovDev »

logotype wrote: post #219

Damn. I just bought a maxed out MacBook Pro M5 Max 128GB 8TB, still waiting for it to be delivered. I could get 256GB RAM M5 Ultra 1TB for roughly the same price, and it's double the memory bandwidth. Which one would you recommend? I do plan to run local LLMs.

Ultra definitely. M5 Max is too hot for a laptop from hearsay. I have a M3 Max in 14in chassis and it's a jet engine that gets really hot

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by throwfaraway135 »

throwfaraway135 wrote: post #411

"M6 features a powerful, larger 12-core GPU that provides higher geometry rates and updated Dynamic Caching to deliver stunning visuals and fluid frame rates in demanding games like Mixtape." Why choose the worst game of the year? Just because it's made by the daughter of Larry Ellison?

The game is considered part of the culture war, but that's not the reason I was surprised to see it, apple is a left leaning company so there is nothing strange about them choosing it from a political perspective.

What was surprising was to showcase a game that would run on a potato as the "look it's a capable gaming machine" segment. While you could have choose BG3, any newer AC, The Last of Us remasters etc. all of which are a much better fit. Of course they don't have the name of Larry Ellison associated with it.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by Gud »

reaperducer wrote: post #645
Gud wrote: post #307

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Except in the 90s, I could wield my OS of choice on the hardware I bought.

Except in the 90s, I could wield my OS of choice on the hardware I bought. What OS could I have loaded onto my Macintosh SE/30 that wasn't from Apple?

NetBSD.

Still supported, by the way. Does Apple support your Macintosh SE/30 still? I believe Linux was also supported.

https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/mac68k/

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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abrookewood wrote: post #749
alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

The M1 was genuinely a big step forward, but what has followed, not so much. I have an M5 Pro with 48GB of RAM and it is genuinely good ... but that's about it. I love the battery life, appreciate the hardware, but find the OS to be annoying. Less annoying than Windows for sure, but I'd rather be running Linux.

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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by mgaunard »

Crestwave wrote: post #852
mgaunard wrote: post #842

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think Linux nor macOS changed significantly during that period. I think what changed is that you got better at Linux. Leveled-up, so to speak.

Haven't they? Tahoe was released which had quite a negative reception, widely considered a regression in terms of performance and UI/UX, while Linux has been gaining significant traction (especially in the gaming space).

macOS always had terrible UI and accessibility, it's their trademark feature. I thought that's what people liked about it.

Windows emulation did see some improvements with Valve's sponsorship, but I wouldn't really consider that significant, and it's not like mac has any comparable technology anyway.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by Folcon »

teiferer wrote: post #791
alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

> a little sluggish > surprised by how quick it felt Aren't these properties of the (G)UI rather than of the processor? I've been using systems 20 years ago that were super snappy. The same software would still be snappy today obviously. But the software has become bloated to the point that you need to run the latest generation of CPUs such that things are not sluggish. In principle you don't need 32-core GHz CPUs to…

I keep thinking this and maybe I'm missing something, but I'd love to be able to opt for something in this direction, some old school constraints, I feel like we should be able to do something pretty magical these days

For example, is there a version of linux that I'm missing? I've not run a desktop linux box in over a decade, any suggestions would be great, or is everyone happily running ubuntu / fedora?

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