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uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by sbarre »

8note wrote: post #816
sbarre wrote: post #720

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> Other services (e.g. YouTube Premium) reduce ads, but do not eliminate them, no matter how much you pay. Hmm curious to know where you live that you still get Youtube-supplied ads with YT Premium? Because "ad-free" is literally the headline feature. Unless you're talking about in-video ads and sponsorships added in by the video creators themselves, and then that's not something in YT's control (although they provid…

it is something in YTs control they can require ad and sponsor-free copies of videos to be uploaded in order to get YT premium revenue. they control the platform. that they choose not to make the premium experience ad free is up to them

This would not be enforceable. Do you understand the scale of Youtube?

Also why would YT get involved in the content of videos themselves, beyond legal moderation requirements?

That's a slippery slope in itself, and it would just lead to a cat-and-mouse game where creators try to incorporate sponsorships in less obvious/visible ways, which is a net bad thing for the audience.

Now at least creators are required to disclose when their videos contain sponsored segments or paid advertisements. What you propose would take away that accountability.

As it stands, you can see when a video includes ads, and you can choose to not watch it. That's your choice.

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by okamiueru »

ericmay wrote: post #843
okamiueru wrote: post #839

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If it is of any consolation. You are spot on, and saved me the effort (which had run out). I'd recommend to leave it alone as well, as it isn't worth it to try and explain logical fallacies. Or, heck, you do you. I'm just too old for it

Just saying "that's a logical fallacy" doesn't make it so. Running away from challenges to your stated opinions or arguments doesn't make them correct either. If you really want to play this whole "logical fallacy" game, then I can start demanding sources and specific definitions of words used too and you can spend hundreds of characters defining specific terms so that your own discussion points aren't themselves som…

It's more that you are being too obtuse to be worth the engagement. You see it as running away from a challenge. I see it as leaving an area because it's become unpleasant. I already told you that you're here for an argument, and I'm not interested. Define the situation however you want, and feel good about it, for all I care.

Re: uBlock Origin is giving up the fight to keep ads off Facebook

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Post by Krasnol »

bkaae wrote: post #555
snickerer wrote: post #549

Ads are an attack, aimed at your brain. They try to inject malware into your thinking, manipulating your worldview and your actions. That's horrible, worse than attacking a machine with malware, damaging persons and societies. Decades of ad propaganda have tricked people into seeing them as something 'normal'. But we shouldn't accept being under constant attack of brain worms. I propose a sane rule for all humans: if…

We should also normalize paying for content at the same time then.

How can we normalise it even MORE? We are paying for digital products MONTHLY and they get more expensive and lose features AND we have to watch the ads too.

What more do you want??

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Post by lovich »

Barbing wrote: post #524
lovich wrote: post #486

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> Eventually, this arms race ends with a computer vision model that looks at the screen, classifies visual elements as ads, and draws a rectangle over anything that looks like an ad. I think fandom wikis appear to have surpassed even this level of bad which I thought was the floor. I’ll look up a character or lore and fandom has managed to SEO their way to the top of search. I’ll click on the link because I haven’t t…

Should add https://breezewiki.com to my StopTheMadness URL redirects

Neat, this will resolve a weekly headache. Thanks for the link

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Post by 404mm »

aanet wrote: post #218

Controversial opinion: This entire thread reads like a game of cat-and-mouse. People trying to block intrusive ads, and FB reaching into the depths of code and making it nearly impossible for anyone to do so en masse. I've been there. Tried to uncheck all the boxes on their ad platform; used all manners of ad blockers, etc; used incognito mode; used Tor; etc. etc. etc. At some point, you realize that the only way to…

This is the way! And I wish I could be part of it. Sadly, FB Marketplace is the only platform I that seems to be decent for random sales os stuff I no longer need.

Please, tell me there is this better option called X/Y, and I’ll happily switch. I just haven’t found it.

Such a shame that some afterthought Meta accidentally implemented is better than the rest of their entire platform.

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Post by docjay »

8note wrote: post #814
docjay wrote: post #785

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The earlier link you provided is indeed refreshingly quick to navigate. What a joy that’s unnecessarily rare. It renders like trash and is unusable on my intentionally-not-updated iPhone, but still. Yay. “Provide incentive programs and reward those that take on such initiatives.” We have that too, we call it capitalism. It’s not very unique, but we heavily market it under the “land of opportunity” moniker. Do a thing…

the dearth of monopolies in america suggests that yes, you can all align om what to eat for dinner, and its that you get what you are given by Sysco

You got it. A company with 15% of the foodservice market somehow supplies 100% of the food in 100% of restaurants and 100% of Americans eat at them 100% of the time. We should probably just pay a tax and have the government take it over so your imagination becomes our reality.

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Post by yoyohello13 »

RestlessMind wrote: post #800
yoyohello13 wrote: post #746

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Unpopular opinion but if people don’t want to pay for a thing, it’s probably not worth a whole lot to n the first place.

That's for people and businesses to decide. Market clearly values Facebook a lot, over a trillion dollars in fact.

IDK. I haven't interacted with Facebook in over 5 years and my life is better for it. Facebook's value prop to me personally is negative.

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Post by nunez »

aanet wrote: post #218

Controversial opinion: This entire thread reads like a game of cat-and-mouse. People trying to block intrusive ads, and FB reaching into the depths of code and making it nearly impossible for anyone to do so en masse. I've been there. Tried to uncheck all the boxes on their ad platform; used all manners of ad blockers, etc; used incognito mode; used Tor; etc. etc. etc. At some point, you realize that the only way to…

I'm finally reading "Careless People." If I hadn't deleted my FB account back in 2023, I definitely would've done it five chapters into reading this hit piece.
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