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Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Guess I'll be looking for a replacement for Cursor now... Anyone have recommendations? I like the plan/agent mode and the fact that it's an IDE, so I can use it in the traditional way as well as by yapping with a bunch of agents. Also the Cursor rules I've curated and they do their job well.

there's probably an emacs thing out there

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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post #776

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Buying Twitter played a key part in getting Trump re-elected, so I think Musk figures he got what he wanted in terms of deregulation, dropped prosecution, and damage to his political opponents. This deal is different: SpaceX is heading for an IPO which is now complicated by xAI becoming a subsidiary. Cursor is actually popular and I’m sure this is all stock-based so as long as investors believe that those users stick…

Quoting a viral tweet: “Elon is such a dumbass, he spent $44 billion on Twitter and all he got was control of all 3 branches of the federal government.”

I mean, that still feels overpriced.

Biden won in 2020 with just ~$2 billion. Though he didn't get all the branches.

Neither did Obama, who won two terms for Are the house and courts really so expensive?

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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post #776

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buying Twitter played a key part in getting Trump re-elected, so I think Musk figures he got what he wanted in terms of deregulation, dropped prosecution, and damage to his political opponents. This deal is different: SpaceX is heading for an IPO which is now complicated by xAI becoming a subsidiary. Cursor is actually popular and I’m sure this is all stock-based so as long as investors believe that those users stick…

Quoting a viral tweet: “Elon is such a dumbass, he spent $44 billion on Twitter and all he got was control of all 3 branches of the federal government.”

He bought his way into politics, came in with a chainsaw (almost literally), realized he didn't want to be in politics after all and rage quit. It may not make him a dumbass, but it certainly makes him some sort of ass.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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NVIDIA has 42,000 employees. Even still, when their deal with Cursor comes to an end do we really expect them to stay loyal? And further, sign on with xAI? When they could instead sign with the new hottest enterprise coding IDE (Claude, Codex, etc who are way more popular now). Maybe if it’s an acquihire, it’s the GTM/Sales that xAI is after?

They might. Elon will probably use his SpaceX/xAI spend (future SpaceX space datacenter dollars) as leverage. NVIDIA is so used to doing such deals by now, they’ll probably take it.

Space datacenters are such a dumb idea. We already have problems keeping spacecraft cool, and unless they send people up there with the datacenters who the heck is going to do maintenance? GPUs need upgrading and hard drives fail

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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post #833

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> And it was "only" ~$20 billion. Inflation can't be this high. While I'm not sure about this buy, Cursor does at least have revenue. WhatsApp was basically running on VC/private money (they had an extremely nominal fee, but I never had to pay it), and was sold to buy its userbase into the Facebook fold. I don't think you can compare that to a business that at least has some decent revenue.

If Whatsapp is burning through say ~$1B yearly with zero revenue and Cursor is burning through say ~$2B with a ~$1B revenue, they're both still in the hole. I wish people would stop talking about just revenue. It's mostly meaningless without knowing their expenses.

I think revenue is common to talk about because profit is also meaningless when a company spends every penny it earns to grow (new engineers, marketing, etc). Iirc Amazon made zero profit for quite some time.

Also revenue is a signal for product market fit. Is it a great one? Dunno. But for example I'd be hard pressed to sell $1billion of anything, even if I had something everyone wanted.

But I think your point about burn rate is important. How long can they have this attrition on cash before they collapse?

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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> How is a VSCode fork and a open weight LLM fine-tune worth $60B? Ignoring future business ideas, Cursor reported reached $2 billion+ annualized revenue run rate in 2026, doubling from 2025. Recent financing rounds reached high-end valuation between $30 billion and $50 billion.

a lot of companies I know are cancelling Cursor in favor of Claude Code or Codex because they already have VSCode or IntelliJ for edits

I did that then I switched back to Cursor after Claude kept running out immediately. Now I pay for both.

Cursor also has a very nice integrated DX that I miss in Claude's VSCode plugin.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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post #840

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X is a subsidiary of xAI (responsible for Grok) is a subsidiary of SpaceX. Tesla is the only major Elon business that’s independent of SpaceX at this point

That's such a weird structure

Well, that’s the order they acquired each other at least. I have no knowledge on the actual reporting/corporate structure.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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post #843

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>A lot of enterprises were doing that but now they hit the 150 user limit on Claude and are paying seat+api rates. A lot of enterprises use Github Copilot which has per-request pricing model which effectively means unlimited tokens which eliminates this issue.

This isn't true anymore.. GitHub are rate limiting people on pro and pro+ pretty hard

I'm talking about per-request model remember? With extensive prompt you realistically can have one request every 10 minutes because the agent will be busy for at least 10 minutes executing it. They aren't rate limiting that.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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Their revenue and growth justified it. Plus, for xAI that could be the only way to get a SOTA coding model they want so hard.

I thought cursor became mostly obsolete with Claude Code and Codex TUIs?

The solution is use both. They both have their usecases. Cursor's autocomplete and quickly highlight a few lines -> throw into context, plus it's got a very good file index/API (which burns much less tokens than Claude's grep'ing) and whatever else they are doing underneath to optimize it for coding.

Claude is still gold standard if you're not in an IDE though.

Re: SpaceX says it has agreement to acquire Cursor for $60B

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post #748

Wow. Tech CEOs and investors have completely lost touch with what money really is worth. How is a VSCode fork and a open weight LLM fine-tune worth $60B? One would think Elon would learn his lesson after overpaying for Twitter and then having to merge his failures together to stay afloat. But no, more cash into the burning pile.

> How is a VSCode fork and a open weight LLM fine-tune worth $60B? Ignoring future business ideas, Cursor reported reached $2 billion+ annualized revenue run rate in 2026, doubling from 2025. Recent financing rounds reached high-end valuation between $30 billion and $50 billion.

I don't think we can use normal valuation methods for these AI companies.

Things are moving so fast, and these companies have no moat whatsoever. Purchasing a company for 30x annual revenue (and as others have pointed out, how much of this revenue goes straight to companies like Anthropic?), without knowing if it's even going to exist in 3-5 years, seems bonkers.

I mean, congratulations to the founders on becoming billionaires in record time, but this is uncharted territory.

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