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Claude Opus 4.7

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Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by edgolub »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #842
elAhmo wrote: post #835

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its funny to think that with a model release Anthropic can slide in some instructions ("be a bit more detailed" or something similar) that affect the token output by a few percent, 5-10%, which will not be noticeable by most users but over the course of the year would bring solid growth (once the VC craze is over, if ever) and increase income. "Regular companies" would love to have a growth like that without effectiv…

I like how some people are accusing them of reducing the overall token usage to screw over Claude Code users and then there are yet other people that are accusing them of deliberately increasing token usage to screw over API users (or maybe to get subscription users to upgrade, I'm not really sure)

Nobody is accusing them of making the models more efficient.

People are complaining they are changing how many tokens you get on a subscription plan.

Why would anyone dislike getting more service for less (or the same) amount of money?

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by tossandthrow »

big-chungus4 wrote: post #848

Crazy how popular this post is on HN, are this many people actually using expensive paid models? Is everyone on HN a millionaire? Or is someone botting all anthropic posts?

200USD a month really is not that much. Especially not for an employer who is used to pay 150-250k a year for an engineer.

Especially for the value it provides.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by cambaceres »

big-chungus4 wrote: post #848

Crazy how popular this post is on HN, are this many people actually using expensive paid models? Is everyone on HN a millionaire? Or is someone botting all anthropic posts?

Claude Pro costs $20 / month which gives you access to their latest models.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by heartleo »

big-chungus4 wrote: post #848

Crazy how popular this post is on HN, are this many people actually using expensive paid models? Is everyone on HN a millionaire? Or is someone botting all anthropic posts?

In the long run, tokens may become a new signal of inequality — access to the most powerful models could be limited to those who can afford them.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by hijodelsol »

big-chungus4 wrote: post #848

Crazy how popular this post is on HN, are this many people actually using expensive paid models? Is everyone on HN a millionaire? Or is someone botting all anthropic posts?

I mean, the 100$ plan is less than the hourly rate of any consultant / senior dev in developed countries. So if it can save even one hour a month, it's cost efficient for the customer (at the current, subsidized rates, of course).

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by jamiejquinn »

mattmanser wrote: post #838
EmanuelB wrote: post #808

I can't notice any difference to 4.6 from 3 weeks ago, except that this model burns way more tokens, and produces much longer plans. To me it seem like this model is just the same as 4.6 but with a bigger token budget on all effort levels. I guess this is one way how Anthropic plans to make their business profitable. During the past weeks of lobotomized opus, I tried a few different open weight models side by side wi…

I just don't believe you. The vast gulf between open weights and frontier models that existed 6 months ago has suddenly disappeared? It's far more likely you're just bad at assessing model output.

Or that gulf doesn't exist for the problems they are trying to solve?

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Post by dear_prudence »

endymion-light wrote: post #16

I'm not sure how much I trust Anthropic recently. This coming right after a noticeable downgrade just makes me think Opus 4.7 is going to be the same Opus i was experiencing a few months ago rather than actual performance boost. Anthropic need to build back some trust and communicate throtelling/reasoning caps more clearly.

same experience, it has not been a reliable tool for the last few months
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