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Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by bdbdbdb »

ndr42 wrote: post #514
lm28469 wrote: post #62

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> 600 might seem budget, but it's out of budget for most people. Out of budget for my parents but I'll pay the difference myself. It's just painful to see them use their pile of shit $300 laptop that can barely open a text editor, sounds like a jet engine and has about 45 minutes of battery life. The only haptic feedback they get if the entire fucking thing creaking as soon as you lightly touch it. They've been throu…

And it's even more painful for me to do the remote tech support for my (80+ years old) parents so paying the difference is a kind of preservation of my mental health...

You need to think about the tech support you do for your parents and decide if it would really be less by moving them to another platform, where "there's no start button" and "where did the top of the window go" and "how do I install this obscure app Ive used for twenty years"

Most of the support questions I field from my folks and in-laws are actually phone things these days. 90% of what I have to deal with is "this thing came up on my phone during the week and I clicked on it, am I hacked? No I don't remember what it said"

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by thefz »

> And there’s the whole thing with the second USB-C port only supporting USB 2 speeds. That stinks. But if Apple could sell a one-port MacBook a decade ago, they can sell one with a shitty second port today.

This is the kind of reasoning behind why I can not take any Apple product review seriously, or any Apple fan seriously.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by drcongo »

LtWorf wrote: post #655
drcongo wrote: post #160

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It's amazing how often people who post on here about hating macOS have only just got a Mac for the first time and simply can't be bothered to learn, or hate that the keyboard shortcuts are different, or desperately want their OS level adverts back or something. It's lazy.

On KDE I open system settings and I change every shortcut I don't like. On OSX that's not possible because they know better, apparently. I agree, they are lazy.

I can't quite work out if this is serious or not, but for anyone who doesn't know, you can set global and app-specific keyboard shortcuts in System Settings->Keyboard->Keyboard Shortcuts. Shortcuts map to menu item titles which means you can set a "Select Next Tab" shortcut and that shortcut will work in every single app that uses "Select Next Tab" in a menu - it's one of the best features on macOS.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by drcongo »

WorldPeas wrote: post #639
retired wrote: post #346

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A Mac isn’t really a walled garden though. You don’t even need an Apple account to use one. Unlike Windows.

but to make a binary for it? You do. Even if it's not-for-profit. Why do you think web interfaces are so popular for OSS, a lot easier for the code to be JIT'd and run in a browser than pay a $99 vig for something you did in 10 days to speed up a process for yourself etc.

Why do you think you need to pay $99 to build a binary that runs on macOS? I do it regularly and have never paid.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by wazoox »

KingMachiavelli wrote: post #31

IMO the consumer PC industry is near an existential crisis. The big players are just awful at marketing; too many SKUs and models - it takes a paragraph to figure out how 2 Dell laptops from the same release year differ. The exact same specs will be in two different chassis designs. Additionally, you can’t count on the basic being correct. It takes a hour of research to know if the trackpad is not-awful, keyboard doe…

A very important point is the RAM and flash shortage. With their humongous volumes, Apple is certainly a member of the happy few with preferential contracts with guaranteed volumes and prices. No other PC maker can remotely compete with Apple on volumes, and now they'll get their already thin margins crushed even more.

In the past Apple had constantly sold high-margin products and grabbed 70 to 80% of the whole industry's margins. Now they're coming for the rest !

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by zvqcMMV6Zcr »

vbezhenar wrote: post #827
newAccount2025 wrote: post #696

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That’s an added windows license though?

Windows license stored inside BIOS. When you install fresh Windows, it'll get activated automatically. What's more troublesome is that some laptops require drivers and customizations, so you need to tinker with your fresh Windows by installing carefully selected subset of drivers, so your hardware works and at the same time you don't install the same shovelware. The driver situation for Windows is truly dire. There a…

> When you install fresh Windows, it'll get activated automatically.

Same happens with some crapware provided by vendor. You can wipe drive all you want, but ASUS motherboard will ask Windows to automatically install "essential drivers", and to be specific - "Armoury Crate".

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by AdamN »

p1necone wrote: post #577
mikestew wrote: post #189

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Then the OS is full of ads and pre-installed garbage “gaming-optimization-tool” or driver tools taking up 99% of a single core while being riddled with security holes. But inevitably, some chucklehead comes along "wut? I can get for half that! Have fun paying the apple tax, lol." Someone posted that on Ars yesterday, with a random Amazon link from Naikan, your name for quality computing. Or rather, "Naikan, your name…

The first thing I do with any new system is immediately wipe the drive and install a fresh copy of Windows/Linux, so bundled shovelware is meaningless to me, and presumably many others. (Of course it would be even better if they just came with a totally stock install already, but that's not worth hundreds of dollars to me)

I can imagine doing that for Linux ... but why tech people battle Windows at this point is beyond me.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by kfajdsl »

cuuupid wrote: post #567
drnick1 wrote: post #471

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> but both Mac and Linux are too far behind Windows or consoles to be considered as gaming machines. That's absolutely not true, the vast majority of Windows games now run flawlessly on Linux via Proton. This is especially true for the kind of games you can expect to run on such modest hardware, i.e. not AAA games with kernel-level anticheat.

I, a developer, have never heard of Proton. Googling Proton, I only find Protonmail, and googling "Linux Proton," Valve's Proton is not even the first result. If you are not terminally online keeping up with Linux distro discourse, it's also difficult to even recognize any of the newer names and players. Linux is not even remotely considerable as an option for the average consumer, which is fine and fully intentional…

You don’t need to know what proton is to click ‘install’ in Steam.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by pbmonster »

etbebl wrote: post #669
madeofpalk wrote: post #363

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What improvements has Windows made in the last decade? I think what you're describing is a symptom of modern software development as a whole.

Windows Terminal and PowerToys are pretty nice. The Phone Link app is convenient, and screenshots are way better (no need to paste into Paint anymore, just use snip and sketch)

The snipping tool (with all features I'm using today) was added to PowerToys more than 20 years ago. It was integrated directly into Windows 10 pretty early in the update cycle. Not sure it qualifies for "the last decade".

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by joe_mamba »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #591
joe_mamba wrote: post #369

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>The legacy PC makers are lucky that Ubuntu doesn’t work on this If Linux would be able to be installed and fully working on this out of the box, then the laptop wouldn't cost 600 dollars. Apple profits from monetizing people tied to its iOS+MacOS ecosystem. If you're not gonna be a MacOS/iOS user, you're worthless to them and selling you a laptop for only 600 dollars is not good for business anymore.

That’s never been true for Apple, and while possibly they are getting closer, it still isn’t true for Apple. They don’t sell anything at a loss.

>They don’t sell anything at a loss.

How's your reading comprehension? Where did I say they sell at a loss? I said they want to monetize people inside their ecosystem.

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