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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by webnrrd2k »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #540
Teknoman117 wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wish there was a stronger source on this. I am inclined to agree you and the source you cited, but unfortunately > [1] This story requires some reading between the lines - the exact text of the contract isn’t available - but something like it is suggested by the way both sides have been presenting the negotiations. I deal with far too many people who won't believe me without 10 bullet-proof sources but get ver…

Those people are dealing with you in bad faith, and you need to cut them off before they try to overthrow your government again.

Yeah, that should have been in the contract too -- no using our software to overthrow the government or to implement a fascist state.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by CamperBob2 »

charcircuit wrote: post #792
rushcar wrote: post #263

"Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic." This is authoritarian behavior. You're having trouble negotiating a contract, so instead of just canceling it - you basically ban all of F500 from doing business with that firm.

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So what I'm hearing is, having trampled every other amendment in the Bill of Rights, the Trump administration is now turning its sights to the Third.

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Post by charcircuit »

anigbrowl wrote: post #817
charcircuit wrote: post #792

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Is Anthropic required to sell to the government even if doesn't want to, and is willing to give up its government contracts rather than change its terms of use?

Anthropic is free to not sell to the government.

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Post by mustardo »

gentleman11 wrote: post #742
pinkmuffinere wrote: post #416

Wow, and the only restrictions Anthropic asked for are (1) no mass domestic surveillance and (2) require human-in-the-loop for killing [1]. Those seem exceptionally reasonable, and even rather weak, lol :| [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war

Trump doesn't want another election to happen. He needs some powerful tools to ensure that happens, ie, massive scale ai surveillance and manipulation. Eg, like Xi uses in China. I bet anyone here he starts a war as his excuse

In an interview with Zelinsky Trump asks "why haven't you had an election? " Zelensky : "because we are at war" you can see the idea percolating then. People think I'm a nutter for suggesting there just won't be another election but that's where my money is. I'm waiting for his version of the Gestapo, ICE seems to be a proving ground

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Post by pcj-github »

rootusrootus wrote: post #831
llm_nerd wrote: post #787

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The US is currently an autocracy/idiocracy. A staggeringly corrupt, busted nation. Soon enough the midterms will be effectively cancelled. Americans remain blissfully unaware.

> The US is currently an autocracy/idiocracy. A staggeringly corrupt, busted nation. We are in a bad place right now, that is for certain. > Soon enough the midterms will be effectively cancelled. That would be a pretty big leap from where we are. I think it is important to pay attention, and very important to vote, but there is not a particularly plausible route to cancelling any elections. But they can certainly ma…

The midterms are not going to go according to anything like historical precedent. If allowed to function normally, Trump loses, and the whole stack of cards collapses. They know that, and will do literally anything and everything to prevent it. If allowed to get away with it, the US is never coming back.

Civil unrest very likely in November.

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Post by nickysielicki »

QuiEgo wrote: post #528
nickysielicki wrote: post #388

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That $961 billion includes things like airplanes and bullets, tech companies are only getting a taste of that pie not anywhere close to the whole thing.

Obviously, but that's a huge number and some tens-of-billions amount of that absolutely does flow towards hyperscalers. Contractors need compute.

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Post by charcircuit »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #852
charcircuit wrote: post #792

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So what I'm hearing is, having trampled every other amendment in the Bill of Rights, the Trump administration is now turning its sights to the Third.

>No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

We are not talking about soldiers living in Anthropic's offices. We are talking about an office employee being able to generate a PowerPoint about autonomous weapon systems.

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Post by Loughla »

hirako2000 wrote: post #640
Loughla wrote: post #631

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I'm guessing you're being down voted because people don't know if you think that's a good thing or not. I do not think it's a good thing. Do you?

I absolutely do not think that's a good thing. Was stating some sad facts.

I had the same thing happen to me when I posted about how unbridled capitalism requires external costs in the form of pollution and what not. I didn't make it clear that I thought it was a terrible truth.

Once the hive decides you're being serious without checking, they turn the down vote button into an I disagree with you button.

This is actually one of the reasons I left Reddit. I hate to see it here.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by hbbio »

johnfn wrote: post #541
Teknoman117 wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wish there was a stronger source on this. I am inclined to agree you and the source you cited, but unfortunately > [1] This story requires some reading between the lines - the exact text of the contract isn’t available - but something like it is suggested by the way both sides have been presenting the negotiations. I deal with far too many people who won't believe me without 10 bullet-proof sources but get ver…

That's a fair point, but I think Dario's quote in GP corroborates ACX's story quite well: > "Two such use cases have never been included in our contracts with the Department of War..."

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