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Post by t-3 »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #805
t-3 wrote: post #615

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A pound of dry rice or beans keeps just as well, provides more food, and is cheaper unless you're buying basmati.

And require preparation vs shoving the snack cake in their / their kid's mouth. It's good to keep time deficits in mind alongside financial deficits.

Very little time or work is required to cook dry rice. Bring water to boil, add rice, set timer. Actually not having time is very rare, limited to people with multiple jobs who never go home except to sleep. Those people exist, but they aren't typical. Most of the extremely poor I've met have an abundance of time and a lack of resources. Cooking is rarely something they need to avoid due to time constraints.

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Post by replwoacause »

subpixel wrote: post #551

> It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them in the US The American diet is insane, full stop. However, I've just begun a GLP-1 regimen to address a willpower problem, not a nutritional problem. I'm not quite young anymore and have given lots of other approaches a shot over the years, but have persistently failed to achieve a weight that is not a threat to my health.…

What does are you on that brings you these effects? I take 5mg weekly and find the effects mild but appreciable.

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Post by sageinventor »

pixl97 wrote: post #644
bluedino wrote: post #287

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Maybe I should have compared individuals then. One apple can be had for less than dollar and one snack cake is over a dollar Either way people should be eating apples, bananas, pears (as well as cheese, nuts...), instead of snack cakes.

That snack cake can sit on the panty shelf for 6 months. The apple might have a week. Cheese and nuts can hang around a while, but they are super expensive and your ass will get just as fat if you over consume them.

Apples last much longer than 1 week, even if stored at room temperature.

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Post by t-3 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #815
t-3 wrote: post #634

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Putting sauce on steak is blasphemy for a lot of people. It's not something normal unless it's the customer adding it to their own meat.

This is true for A1 or ketchup. If you order a steak au poivre, it’s gonna have sauce.

French food having sugary sauces has nothing to do with American food having too much sugar though, and I'd wager 99% of the US has never heard of steak au poivre. We may know of pepper steak, but that doesn't always have sauce.

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Post by ragazzina »

NoLinkToMe wrote: post #670
quesomaster9000 wrote: post #608

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Sure, any kind of non-veg protein adds up quickly, especially if you're doing 3 meals a day. Most local Indian places will do you a solid 1500 calorie meal for £10 if you know what to look for. Versus, go to supermarket... get stuck in a routine every day of "buying stuff", wanting snacks, meat, and so on adds up quickly to the point where sticking below £10 a day becomes a constant battle. It's the routine and const…

I don't understand the point. Supermarket food is cheaper than restaurant food, virtually without exception. But the 'routine of supermarket shopping' creates 'noise' that makes you want to eat more / more often? How does that work. I tend to go to the supermarket once a week and make this buying decision on a full stomach. I've not bought snacks or soda during this type of shopping since I was a teenager, I simply r…

> Supermarket food is cheaper than restaurant food, virtually without exception.

Supermarket food is cheaper than sitting at a restaurant. For take-out, I don't see why it couldn't be cheaper considering whatever you buy and do at home, the restaurant does at scale.

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Post by sharadov »

DrBazza wrote: post #752
subpixel wrote: post #551

> It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them in the US The American diet is insane, full stop. However, I've just begun a GLP-1 regimen to address a willpower problem, not a nutritional problem. I'm not quite young anymore and have given lots of other approaches a shot over the years, but have persistently failed to achieve a weight that is not a threat to my health.…

The American shopping experience is weird as well. There's a spectrum of supermarkets. Versus the UK, any US supermarket I've ever visited (I lived there for a couple of years) seemed to have far less fresh food, especially vegetables and fruit, but stuff in boxes was piled high. Then again, the UK vs. Spain or France is weird, by the same metric, they have even more fresh food than us in supermarkets, and much less…

No idea what you're talking about!

I live on the west coast in the US and the sheer variety of fresh produce would put any supermarket in the UK to shame, even Spain. California produces 40% of the nation's veggies and fruits.

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Post by Esophagus4 »

cthalupa wrote: post #726
Esophagus4 wrote: post #119

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In my (obviously anecdotal) experience, that’s not who the primary GLP1 user is. It’s the suburban mom (or dad sometimes) who wants help losing a little weight. Instead of being 300lbs like your example, she’s 160lbs and wants to be 140lbs.

The morbidly obese people I know fall into two camps: Those that still want to reduce their weight: All of them are on GLP-1s now (and losing weight!) Those that had totally given up: They had long since stopped attempting anything to reduce their weight I suspect that the larger you are, the more likely you are to fall into that second category - getting to 300+ lb involves a certain level of accepting defeat to beg…

Makes sense, I can see that. I guess in all transparency I don’t know many morbidly obese people well enough to know whether they’re on GLPs

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Post by padjo »

pmontra wrote: post #757
padjo wrote: post #707

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Or they weren’t actually that nice and people were being polite.

Maybe that's the reason but the cook also ate less and should be able to compare the taste.

Yes because people are famously good a judging their own work accurately

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Post by samiv »

padjo wrote: post #710
phil21 wrote: post #647

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All that has changed is the environment and lifestyle humans live in, and it's quite obvious discipline and willpower cannot overpower that environment on average. The change was far too rapid for anything else to be remotely the primary cause. If you put a past heroin addict locked in a room with unlimited heroin readily available, chances are likely 9 times out of 10 that person is going to partake eventually. Same…

We could stop companies spending billions shoving the heroin down people’s throats with advertising. But I guess selling them more drugs is a better solution.

Health is unfortunately a very poor business.

Sickness and obesity is much better business. Fitness, medical and fast food industry combined are trillions of dollars.

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Post by s1artibartfast »

malfist wrote: post #482
s1artibartfast wrote: post #327

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This is narrative ignores consumer preference. A salad can be delivered as easily as a pizza.

Goodluck getting a healthy salad delivered outside of a major metropolitan area. In my city of a quarter million (not huge, not small) the options are pretty much limited to two or three places that only offer high caloric salads

Yes, and the reason is that few people want them. There isn't a cabal conspiracy to forgo the profits from offering healthy options. They just dont sell.
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