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Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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1. This distracts from the Epstein files. 2. President for peace he never has (silly FIFA award aside). 3. They’re more interested in oil than any other stated goals. 4. This is straight out of the republican playbook of tanking the economy and using a war to distract from it and prop up defense contractors. 5. US regime changes are always a disaster.

Crazy how far down I had to scroll to see this. Yeah, the timing of it is an Epstein thing. He knows he's gonna get impeached again and files will be released in 2026 when he loses midterms, and needs to concoct an emergency.

Here's how to know if I'm right -- since this isn't high enough drama, he'll make it amp up by a factor of 1-5 with false-flag attacks on America or something else to try to create a real sense of emergency in the next year.

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Reading through this thread is disturbing not because people disagree, but because of how the disagreement is happening. What I'm seeing is a breakdown in the ability to hold consistent principles across contexts. The same people who condemned Russian actions in Ukraine are now making "realpolitik" arguments about Venezuela. The same people who claim to oppose foreign intervention are now calculating whether this was…

I completely agree with you on all points. It's terrifying to see these things you've described playing out.

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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And we wonder why rogue regimes seek nuclear weapons. My biggest concern in geopolitics is non-proliferation and every little thing we do like this works against it.

You have to admit that non-proliferation was a masterful coup by the capitalist ruling class.

The fruits have just ripened, and they're starting to harvest them.

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post #800

It's hard to think through the implications of living in a world where it is accepted that countries with more power simply invade each other and take land and possessions from those with less power. I can't think how it doesn't ultimately lead to broadscale instability and ultimately, war. In turn it depresses me that this is toxic to the humanity progressing and solving its bigger picture problems.

Years of advocating against bullies, my takeaway from this thread is “the US did this because it can”. So bullying is ok now I guess.

I’m sure it had nothing to do with oil too, just about democracy.

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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post #600

A lot of Venezuelans are happy about it. Maduro is not good for Venezuela. The US should not be the decider of who stays in power on another country. The president should not have the power to apprehend a countries president IN THEIR COUNTRY without a process thats more than just "I really want it". The US is giving another clear message that it does not care about global order, just global control. We're back in the…

>ZERO concern of the current US administration about the welfare of Venezuelans

Neither was doing that with other countries they ransacked. The other was pouring enough propaganda at you so that you think it is somehow different.

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Replace Venezuela with Iraq, and Maduro with Saddam, and read this whole comment section. We never learn.

That was different. There was an ultimatum, there was a coalition.

Yes, the recreational wars were dumb, wrong, illegal and just all around bad ideas.

But there was a solid attempt at giving them legitimacy. This matters.

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