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Re: iPhone Air

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Post by arccy » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:41 AM UTC

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

When you need to stack 2 phones together because you're oncall, because you're a streamer, etc.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by edu » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:41 AM UTC

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

Agree. I don’t understand the teen of making the phones thinner but larger. I guess I’m part of the small demographics that love the mini, hope my mini 12 have a couple or more years of live in it.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by mrheosuper » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:42 AM UTC

Alifatisk wrote: post #845

Whenever Apple releases a new phone, I like to visit this page to actually compare it to previous models https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare Also, It's a bummer that they didn't launch something for the mini series. I prefer smaller screens that fit into my pocket, I don't care about thinness. 13-mini will be the last iPhone I can upgrade to in a few years, after that I'll have to look into other phones Another thin…

Thanks to this site, i've just realized that the ip17 has bigger screen than ip16.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by msk-lywenn » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:43 AM UTC

aurareturn wrote: post #846

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

It's not just about thin. It's also about weight. The Air has a bigger screen but weighs less than the iPhone 17.

By 12g…

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by matesz » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:45 AM UTC

Alifatisk wrote: post #845

Whenever Apple releases a new phone, I like to visit this page to actually compare it to previous models https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare Also, It's a bummer that they didn't launch something for the mini series. I prefer smaller screens that fit into my pocket, I don't care about thinness. 13-mini will be the last iPhone I can upgrade to in a few years, after that I'll have to look into other phones Another thin…

https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-17,ip...

Interesting. So apart of camera and battery life, the upgrade from iphone 12 mini to iphone 17 is unimpressive and for someone like me who likes smaller sized phones and don't care about refresh rate (my goal is to decrease my screen time rather then increase), its actually a downgrade.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by jjcob » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:46 AM UTC

flashyhuckle wrote: post #818

powersnail wrote: post #722

I sincerely hope that apple will consider making a phone with a worse camera that is flatter. As someone who rarely takes photos, and never photos of importance, the bump is just a dead weight to me. My dream phone has a body like iPhone 12 mini (which I currently use) without the protruding camera. As long as it runs all the common communication apps reliably, I'm happy. I'll pay $100 more than the standard body ver…

You might want to check the 16e. It has 16 insides (without magsafe and uwb chip), with screen from 14 and not very protruding (although still) but good camera. Its also cheaper than base model iphone.

16e with a skinny case, and you have a completely flat phone

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by nkrisc » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:47 AM UTC

edu wrote: post #852

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

Agree. I don’t understand the teen of making the phones thinner but larger. I guess I’m part of the small demographics that love the mini, hope my mini 12 have a couple or more years of live in it.

In the same boat, the 12 mini is the perfect size. My hands are probably average or slightly above average size for a man and I find any phone larger than the mini difficult to securely hold while using it with one hand.

Just going to keep this one until they make something similar again.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by ahussain » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:48 AM UTC

arcane23 wrote: post #593

jdprgm wrote: post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

Doubt most people want it as thin as possible. This is just the phone industry running out of ideas and trying to tell people what they actually need. There's not much left to "fix" on mobile phones, and no real important features to add. Lacking that, they need something to sell the phones with, so they're going for these strange "improvements". It needs to be something that has some wow factor so they can lead with…

I predict people will want an ultra-thin phone, even if it’s just for weight reasons.

We’ll see what the sales numbers are like.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by elAhmo » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:51 AM UTC

arccy wrote: post #851

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

When you need to stack 2 phones together because you're oncall, because you're a streamer, etc.

Why would you need 2 phones for oncall?

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by irusensei » Wed, Sep 10, 2025, 9:53 AM UTC

I've bought an iPhone 16 this year so it will be at least 4 years before I start thinking about a new one. Hopefully we'll have some sci-fi tech until then.

I was hoping for an Apple TV that can do AV1 decoding.