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Can you clarify how it “harmed” you? You didn’t quite answer that question.
https://xkcd.com/598/ (Except, remove the last panel)
Good for you. IME porn is very standardized and can't be arsed to include my fetishes.
Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
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Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#852Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to whatabout but the US isn't free from punishing journalists. See the Steven Donziger[1] case. It was just done more Americanly. Private corporation threw their full weight at a lawyer defending an indigenous population who had their water supply poisoned. Chevron hired a private prosecutor who had him locked up on house arrest for years. Similar to this porn case, the censorship and suppression is coming from m…
Steven Donziger isn’t a journalist. He was a lawyer who was suing Chevron. I’ve been following the case closely. This is the first time anybody has claimed he’s a journalist, AFAIK. Am I missing something? Edit: according to Wikipedia he worked as a journalist for three years before attending law school. So I guess he’s an ex-journalist, and ex-lawyer for that matter. But calling the persecution of journalists is fal…
> threw their full weight at a lawyer
I used Steven as an example if private prosecution, where a private organization can take away your freedom outside of public prosecutors.
Steven did similar work to an investigative journalist at a high level, he brought attention to, and fought for a marginalized group. He did it through the court system rather than through publication. Despite doing it legally.
I don't see much of a difference. As recent times have shown, much of the legal system(and legal protections) depend on someone enforcing. Without that, there's little difference between the government boot and the corpo boot.
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#853Earlier quoted context omitted.
It sounds like you're saying porn either "gave" you a fetish, or uncovered a latent fetish you didn't know you had (and /or preferred not to know about). If that's an accurate read, can I ask what harm it causes you to have a fetish? Provided it doesn't harm anyone else, what's wrong with liking what you like?
I don’t buy the “revealed a latent fetish” explanation. I don’t think people are born with a fetish baked into their soul. Like, the people with the “blueberry expansion” one, you really think they were born with that? No, of course not, that would be dumb. I think the main reason people put forth the “latent fetish” explanation is in order to argue that pornography is harmless. As for why it harms me? The purpose of…
If that was true, everybody who watches porn would have anal fetish, because anal in porn is regular, but instead anal fetish has geographic distribution.
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
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One is more likely to directly cause a child's death than the other.
I‘m not arguing against that, but I'd like to point out that „death“ as a baseline is a pretty krass statement. Just my two cents.
I don't think it's a bad idea to say the thing that can (and does) kill children is the worse thing.
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#855Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of the moralizing pressure groups are also against sexual content on TV (at least historically they have been). One of the slippery slopes here would be that initially they go after smaller players and then work their way up. Would they ultimately go after Amazon or Warner Bros? It’s not totally clear to me that they wouldn’t.
I said this on the other thread, it's obvious they don't yet have the clout to go after big titles like GoT or GTA yet, and it would be a losing strategy for them to do so. Hence why they are going after battles they can win first.
They already suceeded in getting GTA5 banned in a bunch of stores.
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#856Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it takes willpower not to watch it. if all the tube sites were banned, my life would be better. Now imagine if this was done for different proclivities: alcoholics, speadfreaks, over-eaters, game-addicts. Do you want the government limiting those activities for everyone because a minority lacks self-control?
regulating drugs, highly processed foods, and addictive games sounds good to me. they all exploit vulnerabilities in the human brain. if your product triggers a dump of dopamine, it is suspect.
> regulating drugs, highly processed foods, and addictive games sounds good to me.
"Regulating" and banning/limiting intake are 2 different things. What's the limit of sucrose you can buy/consume?
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
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Adult content on steam is marked as such very clearly. Under Community Content Preferences, you'll see an option for Mature Content and Adult-Only Sexual Content. You'll also be preventing from accessing mature content depending on the filters in your account settings, and in the Family Management section of steam, for Family Shared Libraries.
Next you’ll tell us that all facebook users are over the age of 16 just like marky mark promises us.
It's not clear to me what kind of age controls Steam has, but I suspect that they require certain forms of payment before accessing the "super adult" portion.
(For instance you cannot see the "super adult" store pages at all if you are not logged in.)
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
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I've been using Steam as an adult for the last two decades. I have hundreds of games in my library. I've never seen one porn title recommended to me or while browsing the site. Steam also has extensive parental controls: https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/054C-3167-DD7F-49...
They popped up for me a few times without any prompting. It was weird.
The lack of an opt-out filter was an issue that Collective Shout supposedly campaigned for that went through Steam Labs and was them implemented for everyone circa 2020.
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#859This actually took longer than I thought. It is really weird that for all my adult content I have to go to a dedicated adult store, yet for games I can find them on Steam and gog where kids shop for games. You don’t get porn movies on Netflix or Disney stream. You don’t get adult toys in your local grocery store. Why do we sell porn on Steam? Why haven’t game stores just spin off separate store front for porn content…
CVS and Walgreens in the USA sell adult toys. Bookstores have adult book with images and kids books. Walmart also sells some adult toys, lubricant, and condoms. They also sell magazines with nudity. ESPN did The Body Issue magazine in stores for a decade [1] If a kid has access to steam, do they not have access to the internet? If you are parental blocking the internet, then why not steam? [1]: https://www.espn.com/e…
Wouldn't some parents use Steam's offline mode for this exact reason ?
(But of course this means no access to the "problematic materials" either.)
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#860I read from a fairly reputable source that money laundering is a huge problem in online sex industry. Which makes sense - you have buyers and sellers who insist on anonymity, services that leave no trace once rendered, buyers and sellers lying to family and friends about what they're doing, etc. There's often no "normal" amount of consumption, for example, some sellers receive million dollar tips. Money laundering is…
It's not that any more. Or at least not just that :
Visa Japan’s CEO says disabling card payment for legal adult content is “necessary to protect the brand” :
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/visa-japans-ceo-says-dis...
(And from what I have understood, there's very little or perhaps even no shame in Japan about these things, so that applies even less there.)