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Post by mr_toad »

bibabaloo wrote: post #769
fransje26 wrote: post #750

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a wonder anything actually even works. > If cars were made like this, there would be millions of them breaking down by the side of the road daily. Next to the software side of things, I also often wonder about planes. But, until now, they have proved fairly resilient to falling out of the sky, except for the well known "recent" events. Which is fairly surprising, knowing the levels of mismanagement at play. We…

Planes have just as much spaghetti code as anything else, the only difference is that it's extremely well tested (functionally) and verified spaghetti code.

From talking to someone in the industry TDD seems to be a popular methodology.

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Post by YurgenJurgensen »

Zambyte wrote: post #804
artursapek wrote: post #801

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It’s performative. Not real

No it isn't. I have plans to meet people I originally connected with on Bluesky in person. I have received physical mail from people on the other side of the world that I connected with on Bluesky. I connected a person I met on their with my mother due to related personal struggles. Making this claim is really weird when you don't know anything about me or my friends.

I think it’s notable that your examples of people caring on Bluesky all involve moving to a channel other than Bluesky. Surely if the emotional connection were real, you wouldn’t need to move off social media to facilitate it?

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Post by helle253 »

throwanem wrote: post #483
helle253 wrote: post #293

Wow, the comments on this thread are much more divisive than I thought. I've always felt that the 'there are only two internet cultures: 4chan and tumblr' has felt somewhat accurate. Unfortunately moreso now that /pol/ and /r9k/ have taken over broad swathes of the internet. It's sad to see how far this old haunt has fallen. Lurking /v/ in my early/mid teens was a formative experience for me. It wasn't as hateful as…

> I've always felt that the 'there are only two internet cultures: 4chan and tumblr' has felt somewhat accurate. "Somewhat accurate" is exactly right. This formulation overstates the number of Internet cultures by one, in that the deepest and most shameful secret of both websites' most avid users is that they have always been both websites' most avid users. Other than that, there's nothing wrong with it.

I disagree with this statement, but I get what you're saying.

Two communities with distinct cultures, whose membership nonetheless overlaps, are still two distinct cultures.

They may influence each other through that overlapping membership, but that does not mean they're the same.

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Post by wegfawefgawefg »

ogurechny wrote: post #780
wegfawefgawefg wrote: post #522

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Do you remember when people thought first person shooters made people into murderers because the colombine guy played doom a lot and made a custom wad to simulate the attack? If a murderer eats omelettes every day we should ban eggs. Eggs turn people into murderers. Reminder some kids died jumping off buildings with umbrellas after Marry Poppins. Ban movies.

Nitpicking: a) It seems that no one actually saw the school map to state that it really exists. b) Doom maps are flat 2D blueprints with varying floor heights, they are quite unsuitable to “simulate” any building with multiple floors, not to mention complete lack of realism in everything else in the game (say, player has a speed of a car relative to the environment). There are some tricks in modern ports to combine d…

The general point though is if 99.999% of people doing a thing are fine, but one wacko who likes the thing does a shooting, the evidence for causal connection between the thing and the wackos impetus is beneath the noise floor.

If you are trying to make the argument that The Heros Journey is subtely toxic and evil, well thats just too sophisticated an argument for me. 70% of humanity believes in god. We live beyond truth and measure. Welcome to monkey planet.

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Post by Zambyte »

YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #852
Zambyte wrote: post #804

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it isn't. I have plans to meet people I originally connected with on Bluesky in person. I have received physical mail from people on the other side of the world that I connected with on Bluesky. I connected a person I met on their with my mother due to related personal struggles. Making this claim is really weird when you don't know anything about me or my friends.

I think it’s notable that your examples of people caring on Bluesky all involve moving to a channel other than Bluesky. Surely if the emotional connection were real, you wouldn’t need to move off social media to facilitate it?

What? If the connection was real, why would I limit it to a public digital timeline? That seems like that would be performative.

Kinda over picking apart my relationship with people on Bluesky. Just wanted to share that I have been really enjoying it.

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Post by scryers_bloom »

lysp wrote: post #848
scryers_bloom wrote: post #69

We've heard it time and time again that 4chan is the so called "last bastion of free speech on the internet" when this so called free speech is just being unapologetically racist and antisemitic. I hope its gone for good.

> racist and antisemitic There was a leak of the political channel by poster's country. According to that post, the top posting country by far (226M posts) is also the same country that is at the receiving end of antisemitism.

Yet another reason 4chan and its anonymity is a misinformation and propaganda warzone.

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Post by lurk2 »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #838
lurk2 wrote: post #811

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This used to be a selling point for me when I was younger, but increasingly I find myself not wanting to deal with poorly-moderated platforms. I can’t tell if it’s because the transgressive vulgarity that these platforms enable has lost its novelty as I’ve gotten older or because the median user has less to contribute. Every time I try to browse 4chan these days I find that half the posts are repulsive, basically por…

>There are a lot of people who have nothing to contribute to a conversation, While true, the few people who do have something to contribute to a conversation simply can't do so on a highly-sanitized, heavily-moderated forum. The things they'd say would be too upsetting to a status quo, and the status quo will win. There is a real difference between something truly insightful and flat earth theory, but outsourcing tha…

> but outsourcing that decision to a reddit mouth-breather whose only qualification for moderating is that he showed up to r/whatever back in 2013 before anyone else is not the way to detect those differences.

Spez once compared these people to a landed gentry; they are not unlike domain squatters. Notably, 4chan is basically identical in this regard. I’ve been banned from /lit/, /trv/, and /his/ for posts that the janitors of each board have decided were off-topic, even though they were plainly related to the board’s subject. There are potential structural solutions to this incentive problem, but the easiest solution is to take your ball and go home when a platform demonstrates that they don’t want you there. The big issue is that the global audience has consolidated onto a few sites, so there isn’t a lot of meaningful competition for the users that do leave.

> 4chan, as bad as it is, is the least insane of all internet forums

Hacker News is superior by almost every metric. Reddit was also way better than 4chan for serious discussion in the years before Trump was elected. The model works as long as the managers are not incompetent. The true problem is how to keep the network effects in play when moderators abuse their position as stewards to censor others due to motives of pride or self-enrichment. Federated networks might be the solution here.

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Post by RKFADU_UOFCCLEL »

Red_Tarsius wrote: post #88

I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I enjoyed browsing through sfw boards like /tg/ (tabletop media), /ck/ (cooking) and /fit/ (fitness). I had long discussions about the SW sequels on /tv/ back in 2015-19. The readership was surprisingly diverse and the anonymity lead users to provide more focused replies. With bodybuilding.com gone, the blue boards felt like the last bastion of the old int…

This. It's just a website (where anyone can post, quite rare in these overpoliticalized days).

> A Soyjak.Party users also shared a list of emails they claimed are associated with janitor and moderator accounts, including three .edu emails. Although some internet users claimed that the leaks included .gov emails associated with members of the moderation team, this remains unverified.

Like who cares?

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Post by scryers_bloom »

soon_to_be wrote: post #328
scryers_bloom wrote: post #69

We've heard it time and time again that 4chan is the so called "last bastion of free speech on the internet" when this so called free speech is just being unapologetically racist and antisemitic. I hope its gone for good.

4chan being gone for good would've been a bad thing regardless of your views. All those people who used to come there and just talk wouldn't just cease to exist nor stop feeling the way they feel. At the very least, it's the devil you know.

Obviously those people will continue to think and exist the way they are. But we can't assume things will slowly start getting better if we continually allow increasingly racist "discourse" and misinformation in our society.

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Post by mr_toad »

donnachangstein wrote: post #552
jrochkind1 wrote: post #493

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This is an old well known exploit. Don't run versions of ghostscript from 2012?

> Don't run versions of ghostscript from 2012? Per Wikipedia: In February 2013, with version 9.07, Ghostscript changed its license from GPLv3 to GNU AGPL. With the AGPL license being legal kryptonite I wonder if license compatibility drove the decision (and how many other installations of Ghostscript share this concern)?

4chan aren’t modifying the Ghostscript code, why would they care about the license?
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