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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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> Can more information be provided to make sure this is a true story Here you have 124 sources (and counting), from all sides of the political spectrum: https://ground.news/article/canadian-woman-says-she-was-wrap...

124 re-edits of the same news wire does not equal 124 sources.

Agree, but that collection certainly amounts to more than 1 source, since many of the articles have first-hand reporting, and some even their own interviews with Mooney.

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Can more information be provided to make sure this is a true story or a political campaign ad? Is this why it is flagged?

Campaign ad? The next federal elections are 20 months out.

Ok "political propaganda", think of media as a brainwashing machine, it needs time to sink in: repetition -> familiarity -> truth -> votes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_truth_effect

Which makes me wonder of the "124 sources", most from repetition: https://bradonomics.com/trust-me-im-lying-summary/

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Nice steel manning, of course transgender people without bottom surgery don’t walk into nude spas. If you find a single example, great, find me the hundreds of examples you folks claim there are which threaten you. You’re not arguing honestly, just coming up with wild situations that don’t match reality. You may be uninformed, or misinformed, I suggest you actually read more than surface articles on Fox News.

I don't claim that there are hundreds of examples of this. My claim: - A: today, the left, broadly construed, insists that there is a right for transgender women to go into women-only spaces, including nude spas. For my point, it doesn't matter how often this "right" is exercised - merely that the left asserts that there is such a right. - B: this was not true of the left 6 years ago (or 45 years ago). - Consteval's…

Are you interested in hearing from the perspective of a trans person who mostly doesn't agree with the person you've been replying to, but does feel there's gaps in your perspective here?

I ask this way especially because I don't know if you'll actually see this since I see one of the comments is flagged, and given how it's been most of a day already.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I don't get the " tiny, freezing cement cell with bright fluorescent lights" and a foil blanket thing though. Why be so nasty? If you are making a business improperly detaining people it would only be likely to cause outrage and get it shut down? I'm curious as a non American why no one stops this. I mean presumably both political parties have not bothered. Do people in the US think it's ok? I think if that stuff hap…

A lot of America (even parts of the left) still fall for the "hard on crime" narrative. They assume the sentences are just, and thus bad people deserve the worst. Even if our constitution has a clause agaisnt "cruel and unusual punishment". never-mind that we've had decades of initiatives using such prisons as a form of soft racism, something so longstanding that is publicly declassified information. And people still…

They would go further, and argue that it’s the people who argue against this narrative, are supporters of criminals.

I.e. - It’s gone from “you are too soft on crime”, to “you are supporting criminals.”

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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The story is good, but there are some interesting bits they mention in passing. Keys for why this all went so wrong:

"I was granted my trade Nafta work visa, which allows Canadian and Mexican citizens to work in the US in specific professional occupations, on my second attempt... I had gone to the San Diego border the second time to apply."

So: she tried to get a work visa, was denied. Hired a San Diego lawyer, entered from Mexico, got her visa granted. Went home, tried to enter the country again, got her visa revoked and told to speak to a consulate. Then tried to enter again from Mexico, at that point she got detained.

Maybe all this could've been avoided if she did the visa paperwork through the consulate, like she was told to do, instead of showing up at a land crossing after her visa was revoked? A land crossing from a country she has no status in (Mexico), especially. Presumably she was detained because they couldn't just turn her around back into Mexico.

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I don't claim that there are hundreds of examples of this. My claim: - A: today, the left, broadly construed, insists that there is a right for transgender women to go into women-only spaces, including nude spas. For my point, it doesn't matter how often this "right" is exercised - merely that the left asserts that there is such a right. - B: this was not true of the left 6 years ago (or 45 years ago). - Consteval's…

Are you interested in hearing from the perspective of a trans person who mostly doesn't agree with the person you've been replying to, but does feel there's gaps in your perspective here? I ask this way especially because I don't know if you'll actually see this since I see one of the comments is flagged, and given how it's been most of a day already.

I would be very interested, thank you. The flag is probably justified since HN is not really the place for these culture war things :) but I'm genuinely trying to understand the perspective here, because it does seem like a big gap between my understanding (the Democratic party has moved left on these issues) and theirs (the Democratic party is just playing defense on these issues).

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https://www.instagram.com/enjoyholywater/reel/C-3VLghyiHy/?l...

I must have missed the ownership table in that video. How much of the company does she own?

She has publicly stated she is a cofounder of the company. In order to qualify for the TN visa there has to be a legitimate employer-employee relationship, and as cofounder, that makes that impossible. At the very least this makes her subject to detainment for possible immigration fraud.

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I must have missed the ownership table in that video. How much of the company does she own?

She has publicly stated she is a cofounder of the company. In order to qualify for the TN visa there has to be a legitimate employer-employee relationship, and as cofounder, that makes that impossible. At the very least this makes her subject to detainment for possible immigration fraud.

Founders/cofounders are generally legally and legitimately employees of the firms they were involved in founding.

Yes, if she was the sole or controlling owner, this would be an issue. But “cofounder” and “sole owner” are... not the same thing.

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In my experience during this last Trump campaign, the most effective way to rile conservatives is not to lie, but rather to tell the truth. Meaning, taking Trump at his word and repeating the words he said, in direct quotes. I think what's happening is that a lot of his constituents like him due to his personality, but they don't necessarily believe he is honest. So, they're betting on his dishonesty and using that a…

Well, in that case Trummp has done a fantastic job proving those people wrong. But that still confuses me: who can like this personality when it's on the world platform, and not just a TV stereotype? Could we at least elect someone likeable like Bill Nye if we're voting based on "personality"?

Most Americans don’t care for someone put together. That’s interpreted as pretentious.

They want someone a bit stupid, who says stupid things. They want someone who’s an asshole because asshole is basically synonymous with badass protagonist.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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The story is good, but there are some interesting bits they mention in passing. Keys for why this all went so wrong: "I was granted my trade Nafta work visa, which allows Canadian and Mexican citizens to work in the US in specific professional occupations, on my second attempt... I had gone to the San Diego border the second time to apply." So: she tried to get a work visa, was denied. Hired a San Diego lawyer, enter…

I read this story and it struck me as suspicious for the same reason. Peter Roberts (an immigration attorney) commented on it here a few days ago:

> That's extraordinarily unusual and in my experience has only happened when CBP believes that the applicant was lying or has a criminal record so I wouldn't base the decision on where/how to apply on this very low risk. Depending on the TN application, there are better and worse ways to apply for a TN and from an outcome standpoint, sometimes it's better to apply with CBP at the border or with CBP at a U.S. airport by flying directly to the U.S.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43363854

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