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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by bluSCALE4 »

StressedDev wrote: post #670
Schiendelman wrote: post #570

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It has. Apple escaped this cycle. Their software is great. Instead of you being the product, you buy the product. People then just complain the product is expensive. On this website, I roll my eyes.

Agreed - If you want good products, you should support the people who create them. That means paying. If you want a privacy destroying enshitified product, keep using "free" products.

This isn't so simple. I love a lot of apps but I'm not willing to pay a monthly or yearly sub. I'll give you $5-$250 but I won't give you $5 a month.

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Post by rchaud »

simonask wrote: post #783
astrange wrote: post #344

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This green text thing only happens in the US. Nobody really uses iMessage elsewhere.

Apple/iOS has market dominance in several places outside the US, including Japan, Canada, Scandinavia, and several other European nations. It has a slight majority in the UK. Android has worldwide dominance overall, but people tend to communicate locally. Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma...

iMessage is nowhere near as popular outside the US, mostly because consumers do not expect to default themselves into some kind of single-manufacturer proprietary "ecosystem" that rivals Sony in how anti-consumer it is.

Thanks to the EU, you can just charge newer model iPhones with any USB-C cable now instead of having to pad Apple's profits further with proprietary dongles and cables that offer no additional value.

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Post by patja »

StressedDev wrote: post #677
pkamb wrote: post #377

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In the USA, someone insisting on using an Android when everyone else in their social circle has an iPhone (and they do!) is what's seen as anti-social. No one wants to use the degraded green bubble SMS experience so they simply exclude the Android user and continue using blue bubble iMessage.

I have never ever seen this. If your "friends" treat you badly because of your phone choice, they are not really your friends. Also, iMessage is not that great. It's nice but it is not amazing like some people make it out to be.

Happens a lot with adolescents. They can be quite exclusionary.

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Post by alt227 »

leptons wrote: post #368
wenc wrote: post #186

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Platform fragmentation is a generational thing. I thought email was a common denominator but I learned most people don’t check email or check it rarely. So different from the days when everyone had email. I still use FB and so do many of my friends my age (mid to late 40s). But a bunch have also migrated to Instagram. Among the younger generation, you’re a millennial if you’re on instagram because they’ve moved to Ti…

My wife is late 40s and just deleted her facebook account, and she's the most FOMO person I know - and she did this because of zuck capitulating to trump. A lot of people have had it with companies supporting fascists.

> zuck capitulating to trump

So did Tim Cook. Is she binning her iPhone?

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by alt227 »

nozzlegear wrote: post #150
talldayo wrote: post #130

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It causes problems if one of the iPhone owners isn't an active iCloud+ subscriber: > Creation of invitations requires an iCloud+ subscription. This isn't about making life easier on people, this is about getting you to subscribe to Apple's services for access to a REST API. Apple gets some benefit of the doubt, but this is literally Slop-as-a-Service.

I can't tell what you're arguing here – are you misunderstanding what you quoted from the FAQ? Only the person who creates the event needs to have an iCloud+ subscription. Everyone else can RSVP to it regardless of whether they have an iCloud+ subscription or even an Apple device at all. > Do invitees need to have an Apple device with the app to attend an event? > Apple Invites is for everyone. Guests don’t need the…

> Apple Invites is for everyone. Guests don’t need the app, an Apple device, or an account to RSVP to an event.

Right, so how do they get and respond to the invite? I'm guessing SMS or email, making the whole thing pointless.

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Post by alt227 »

ACS_Solver wrote: post #474
nonchalantsui wrote: post #289

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The Apple TV one is particularly bad due to them naming the service, the box, and the app the same thing. One of them has a + tacked on, who knows which. As long as they don’t start naming other things Invite, they might avoid that issue. Although maybe they’ll name their HomePod with a screen that and we’re back to square one.

I very rarely interact with any Apple tech. Recently I wanted to watch Severance, so I signed up for a trial period of Apple TV. It even worked on Firefox on my Linux desktop. But I only get 1080p video, while my screen is 1440p. The show didn't look good, and I found that yes, you can only get 1080p if you're not watching through an Apple device. I would have been happy to become a subscriber of the streaming servic…

I am no Apple sympathiser, and I use Firefox religiously, but to be fair to Apple Firefox streaming support and implementation is the worst of all the browsers.

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Post by gsnedders »

WorldMaker wrote: post #190
morsecodist wrote: post #163

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I would say the more a given app/feature has network effects the more invested I am in it being cross-platform. For example, iMessage and Facetime are highly social. Apple was resistant to adopting the RCS protocol for iMessage, though they eventually caved and now the experience of texting between iPhones and Androids is better for both parties so it seems preferable to me. Meanwhile, we take it for granted that the…

Apple Invites does provide ICS files for the events. (In the web version when not logged in to an Apple Account, after RSVPing.) Technically vCal/iCal/ICS (whichever name you prefer) doesn't actually support RSVPs. It isn't in the standards documents. In ancient Microsoft nomenclature that pseudo-standard (de facto standard) for RSVPs is the "Schedule+ protocol" named after an ancient dead predecessor to Outlook's Ca…

iTIP (RFC 5546) / iMIP (RFC 6047) are a standard for sending and responding to calendar invites, implemented on top of email.

Certainly some implementations are pretty poor, but in theory this is all standardised.

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Post by alt227 »

duxup wrote: post #25
cptcobalt wrote: post #14

This era of new experimental apps from Apple (Invites, Journal, Sports) has me excited about the future of app design. Vibrant colors, bold personality-driven typography, etc. The SwiftUI style onboarding screen that features the carousel is really fun. This approach feels very Apple'y, but gives me more freedom to explore designs for my own app to have its own unique voice on iOS, while still feeling in-family with…

It might be thought of as a bug but I love that the Apple Sports app announces scores for a live game before it hits TV. In this day and age of everyone multitasking ... that's a hell of a great feature to be able to say "guys look!". For a while I was amazing my kids predicting touchdowns, but they caught on ;)

Sounds like a good way to ruin the excitement of watching a sports game with friends.
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