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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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lupusreal wrote: post #705
pjc50 wrote: post #657

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nobody has the authority to figure out what is going on, or nobody has the motivation, or nobody has the technical capability Well .. SNAFU? This is basically what I'd expect. In these kind of cases there's a steady stream of crank reports from the public which are 100% false positives. The authorities will have a process for routing all the UFO reports to someone who sends out form letters and otherwise ignores th…

Foreign drones must be above aliens (but no higher I think.) Foreign drones are known to exist, while aliens are just speculative science fiction.

I don't expect you to believe in aliens. I don't tend to believe in much of anything. But when you have multiple whistleblowers giving testimony to congress that UAPs are operated by non-human intelligence, I think keeping aliens as "just speculative science fiction" is factually incorrect.

https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/4712445-key-senato...

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Post by yencabulator »

narrator wrote: post #770
j_timberlake wrote: post #501

Quick summary after following this for a few days: FBI says they're rotary and fixed-wing drones, White House says they aren't foreign adversaries, Pentagon says they aren't USA military, all 3 insist that there's no indication of a real threat despite the drones being bigger and higher tech than retail drones. Politicians are PO'd that something about this doesn't add up: How can anyone know these aren't a threat wi…

For those who want to know the most consistent UFOlogy angle that wasn't invented last week: Over on 4chan there was an alleged leaker and follow ups back in 2023 who says that there's an underwater ET mothership off the east coast that produces 3-d printed made to order small anti-gravity drones that launch and do various tasks to monitor us. Anything that approaches the underwater mothership is destroyed before the…

Ah, E115 aka Moscovium. Highly radioactive, with a half-life of under a second, claimed to be a stable building material. Straight to Bob Lazar levels of kookiness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materials_science_in_science_f...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscovium

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar

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Post by IAmGraydon »

squarefoot wrote: post #569

The ones shown in video all emit light. I'm sure if I had something nefarious in mind that wasn't spreading fear among passers by, I'd turn the damn drone lights off. They behave like their owners want them to be seen. It's quite possible their only task is to fly around and make sure people see them, as a form of less violent terrorism that rather counts on news channels and social media to spread fear.

I’m thinking the same thing. An engineered form of mass hysteria. The goal is to make us feel that the threats are all around us, leading to hypervigilance and societal fracture.

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Post by bsder »

bee_rider wrote: post #620
UltraSane wrote: post #546

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Did they use tons of global variables?

Probably didn’t use misra

And didn't have watchdogs. Or redundancy. Or analysis of what failures would do. Or ... etc.

It wasn't just one thing. It was a near complete and total disregard for the fact that they were writing code for machines that could kill people.

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Post by IAmGraydon »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #808

Someone make a FOIA request to the FAA for AANC and 'FAA Drone Zone' authorizations for flights in areas experiencing drone sightings. Be very specific with like 'AANC and 'FAA Drone Zone' authorizations for the ABC affected area and in force during XYZ specific timeframe (and break out each night, preferably in separate FOIA requests). My guess is that would shed some light on things. 'ABC' above would need to be th…

Does anyone really believe that FOIA responses actually contain real information on classified operations?

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Post by bsder »

UltraSane wrote: post #754
bluGill wrote: post #580

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Globals are common and even right in this application. However they didn't take proper care in other ways (i'm not clear what I've just been in embedded long enough to know globals are often required despite how hard they are to get right)

tons of global variables on code that has lots of people working on it seems almost as hard as trying to write lock-free data structures.

Global variables (nee static) are fairly normal in embedded. You want to preallocate all your memory since you generally don't have a heap.

Mostly you have specific inputs from some other tasks and your outputs are consumed by different tasks. So, even though the variables are "global" they generally only have one writer with multiple readers in properly done embedded programming.

What Toyota did was not even in the same universe as "properly done embedded".

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Post by IAmGraydon »

jotjotzzz wrote: post #666

Based on all the sightings and someone flying a drone next to these things, the size of these "drones" is much bigger, like the size of a car! Additionally, drones can hover for less than an hour. These "drones" stay floated for many hours on end! These should be called UFOs, not drones. The light on them and their shape make them look like regular drones, but I think these crafts are much more than the regular drone…

> Additionally, drones can hover for less than an hour. These "drones" stay floated for many hours on end!

I think this is misinformation stemming from today’s meeting with NJ mayors. There was a statement that they are seen for 7 hours at a time. At no point did they say the same drone stayed in the air for 7 hours. I believe they were stating that the sightings start after sundown and go on for around 7 hours. Of course the internet took this and ran with it as the internet does.

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Post by IAmGraydon »

gg2222 wrote: post #516
aliasxneo wrote: post #299

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I do find it rather hard to make sense of the antagonism here. My only guess is people feel the need to distance themselves from the "sheep" and do so by ridiculing them from their ivory tower. In some cases it's the same thing, but there's a political bent added to it ("some people" from "that side"). Sad to see what HN is slowly devolving into.

Agreed. If it is mass hysteria why doesn't the government just say so instead of saying "they don't know". Some people just can't accept not "knowing it all".

They more or less did say that. They said that people are reporting these things but they haven’t detected anything. If you read between the lines, I think they’re insinuating this is mass hysteria but need to continue investigating to be sure.

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Post by IAmGraydon »

hedora wrote: post #399
op00to wrote: post #252

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Or airplanes. Like the ones flying overhead all the time in N.J.

Or here: https://felt.com/explore/us-electric-power-transmission-line... (Account signup required.)

Wow. What possible reason would anyone have to make that information so easy to access?

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Post by IAmGraydon »

lxgr wrote: post #326

While I do believe that whatever is happening will largely be explained by selective attention and confirmation bias, here is at least one instance of a drone sighting on the final approach path to JFK over a landing airplane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQiSkTVeN78

At 2,500 ft that is definitely no civilian drone.
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