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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by qingcharles » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:39 PM UTC

jajko wrote: post #526

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A lot of people who commit crimes are suffering from a range of untreated mental illnesses. They are not always firing on all cylinders all of the time, leading to weirdness like this.

Most folks with mental illnesses live among us, not in mental institutions. If on a scale 1-10 you have something like bipolar on 1 or 2, you can sort of function with some meds. Sort of, until SHTF and emotions go haywire. Keeping relationships is hard, be it personal or professional, so folks struggle but from outside they often just appear 'weird'. Wife is a GP doctor, maybe 1/3rd of her patients have some form of…

100% this. I've seen stats saying 20% of people in jail have untreated mental illness. I've spent a lot of time in jails and I would say it has be 80%+ because a lot of people can function enough to live in society and hide their symptoms until the point where they do something criminal.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by IncreasePosts » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:40 PM UTC

chaorace wrote: post #850

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How does a rich person existing affect me? Is it just because I'm jealous that I don't have a yacht and so I should try to overthrow the system that doesn't let me have a yacht? Even though I'll never get a yacht in any system? Can we look at the graph of wealth disparity of America versus other nations?

How does a king existing affect you if you live in a monarchy? One does not need begrudge the king his power to live in fear of it.

A king in a monarchy generally has absolute power to enforce his will. A rich person living in a society of laws does not.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by listless » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:40 PM UTC

cedws wrote: post #759

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This looks like a case of "suicide by revolution". Various media reports (including this one) suggest that he had a back injury in 2023, has not worked since 2023, started losing touch with friends in 2023, has been reading books about back injuries and chronic pain, etc. If you've ever known someone dealing with chronic pain, it can easily make you decide that you're better off dead than continuing to live. Likely h…

But he’s not dead, he’s going to prison. Does he plan to commit suicide behind bars? He’ll probably be on tighter watch than Epstein - that’s what happens when you mess with the ruling class.

That’s what happens when you commit a crime. It doesn’t matter who you kill or who you are when you do it. If the CEO had killed this guy in the same manner, he’d be facing the same consequences.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by artistic_regard » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:40 PM UTC

chaorace wrote: post #850

IncreasePosts wrote: post #829

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How does a rich person existing affect me? Is it just because I'm jealous that I don't have a yacht and so I should try to overthrow the system that doesn't let me have a yacht? Even though I'll never get a yacht in any system? Can we look at the graph of wealth disparity of America versus other nations?

How does a king existing affect you if you live in a monarchy? One does not need begrudge the king his power to live in fear of it.

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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by IncreasePosts » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:41 PM UTC

unknownsky wrote: post #842

IncreasePosts wrote: post #829

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How does a rich person existing affect me? Is it just because I'm jealous that I don't have a yacht and so I should try to overthrow the system that doesn't let me have a yacht? Even though I'll never get a yacht in any system? Can we look at the graph of wealth disparity of America versus other nations?

Extremely rich people control every aspect of your life, how your city is planned, the state of the job market, the state of the economy, the laws, the state of the planet itself. One way that got a lot of attention lately is that extremely rich people prevent access to health care for everyone else.

This seems like a pretty conspiratorial view on how society operates.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by rc_mob » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:44 PM UTC

wesselbindt wrote: post #608

Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a Not Guilty verdict even though jurors believe beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant has broken the law. Because the Not Guilty verdict cannot be overturned, and because the jurors cannot be punished for their verdict, the law is said to be nullified in that particular case.

Pinning your hopes to this is setting yourself up for disappointment

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by arkh » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:45 PM UTC

LetsGetTechnicl wrote: post #728

Murder is only justified when it's your business model and behind numbers and profit margins in an Excel sheet are the real people you are sentencing to a lifetime of suffering and/or death.

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here.

How much do you think people should pay for some random person to be afforded one more hour of life free of pain? $1000? $1000000? $100000000? More?

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by itishappy » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:46 PM UTC

that_guy_iain wrote: post #653

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- He wasn't thinking clearly and didn't really have much of a post shooting plan outside of getting out of NYC Seems pretty likely that this was the case. Getting away from the site of the crime is challenging enough!

Getting in and out of NYC leaving as little as he did was the challenge. Getting across the border or camping out in the Forrest for a few weeks shouldn’t be that much of a challenge in comparison.

A few weeks in an NY forest in December? That's a challenge even if you're prepared.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by barbazoo » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:47 PM UTC

blantonl wrote: post #682

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> who actually lead pretty decent lives. It's because the whole image is fake. In theory everything is fine but you know there is something very bad about the healthcare system, and the power of an institution to decide about someone else's life or death is just one aspect of it; prices inflated beyond imagination is another one (these two are related). So we pretend to live normal lives but in the back of our head w…

The problem is I don't see any "easy" solution to this issue, simply because there will always be an institution in place to decide about someone else's life our death. Be it a privately run for profit insurance system that runs on perverse incentives, or a government agency that runs on power and influence and corruption.

A first step could be to look at health care outcomes across the globe and see if the ones at the top have anything in common: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_quality_o...

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by djent » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:48 PM UTC

xivzgrev wrote: post #325

breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

I don’t think so, per article: He "became quiet and started to shake" when asked if he had recently been to New York, according to the criminal complaint filed in Pennsylvania. Being smart can lead to arrogance, which leads to stumbles. like carrying evidence, dining in public, etc.

Ah yes, stupid people, famously never arrogant