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The only time I worked on a project that had a live television launch, it absolutely tipped over within like 2 minutes, and people on HN and Reddit were making fun of it. And I know how hard everyone worked, and how competent they were, so I sympathize with the people in these cases. While the internet was teeing off with easy jokes, engineers were swarming on a problem that was just not resolving, PMs were pacing up…

Some breaks are just too difficult to predict. For example, I work in ecommerce and we had a page break because the content team pushed too many items into an array, that caused a back-end service to throw errors. Because we were the middle-service, taking from the CMS and making the request to back-end, not sure how we could have seen that issue coming in advance (and no one knew there was a limit).

> Some breaks are just too difficult to predict.

Absolutely. I think a great filter for developers is determining how well they understand this. Over-simplification of problems and certainty about one’s ability to build reliable services at scale is a massive red flag to me.

I have to say some of the hardest challenges I’ve encountered were in e-commerce, too.

It’s a lot harder and more interesting than I think many people realize. I learned so much working on those projects.

In one case, the system relied on SQLite and god damn did things go sideways as the company grew its customer base. That was the fastest database migration project I’ve ever been on, haha.

I often think it could have worked today. SQLite has made huge leaps in the areas we were struggling. I’m not sure it would have been a forever solution (the company is massive now), but it would have bought us some much-needed time. It’s funny how that stuff changes. A lot of my takeaways about SQLite 10 years ago don’t apply quite the same anymore. I use it for things now that I never would have back then.

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I am one of the ones who complain about their microservices architecture quite a lot. This comes from both first-hand experience of talking to several of their directors when consulted upon on how to make certain systems of theirs better. It's not just a matter of guarantees, it's a matter of complexity. Like right now Google search is dying and there's nothing that they can do to fix it because they have given up co…

> they want to be associated with "Faang" and yet their product is not really technology based. You lost me. Netflix built a massive CDN, a recommendation engine, did dynamic transcoding of video, and a bunch of other things, at scale, quite some years before everyone else. They may have enshittified in the last five years, but I dont see any reason why they dont have a genuinely legitimate claim to being a founder m…

Pornhub has better, more reliable technology than Netflix, yet you don't see their tech blog very often do you?

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Writing APPL instead of Apple doesn’t get you any fewer keystrokes.

Technically it’s one fewer keystroke (and it’s AAPL). It’s a lot fewer keystrokes for MS (Morgan Stanley), GS (Goldman Sachs) and MSFT (Microsoft) than it is for AAPL, but it’s a force of habit for some. Once you’re used to referring to firms by their ticker symbols, you do it all the time. E.g. an ex trader friend still says “spot” instead of “point” when referring to decimal points, even if talking in other context…

AAPL is only fewer keystrokes than Apple if you’re in a physical keyboard and hold the shift key, which makes it hardly more convenient. If you use caps lock presumably you’ll press it again.

On a phone, at least in iOS, you have to double tap the shift key.

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Netflix is good only on streaming ready made content, not live streaming, but; 1. Netflix is a 300B company, this isn't a resources issue. 2. This isn't the first time they have done live streaming at this scale either. They already have prior failure experience, you expect the 2nd time to be better, if not perfect. 3. There were plenty of time between first massive live streaming to second. Meaning plenty of time to…

Apple was clearly larger than Google when they came out with Apple Maps, and it was issue-laden for a long time. It is not a resource-issue, but a tech development maturity issue.

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There’s very likely a dedicated service for delivering frames. That’s service would technically be a “microservice” even if it is a large service.

Why is that “very likely”? I’m genuinely curious about the reasoning behind that statement. It’s very possible that you are using a different set of assumptions or definitions than I am.

I say that because, for performance reasons, you’d never want to wait on potentially several hops to stream media and because the act of streaming could very well be a good enough domain boundary.

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The only time I worked on a project that had a live television launch, it absolutely tipped over within like 2 minutes, and people on HN and Reddit were making fun of it. And I know how hard everyone worked, and how competent they were, so I sympathize with the people in these cases. While the internet was teeing off with easy jokes, engineers were swarming on a problem that was just not resolving, PMs were pacing up…

Those are the times when you identify who is there to help and who is there to be performative.

Those performative people are worse than useless. They take up critical bandwidth and add no real value.

An effective operational culture has methods for removing those people from the conversations that matter. Unfortunately that earns you a reputation for being “cutthroat” or “lacking empathy.”

Both of those are real things, but it’s the C players who claim they are being unfairly treated, when in fact their limelight-seeking behavior is the problem.

If all that sounds harsh, like the kitchen on The Bear, well…that’s kinda how it is sometimes. Not everyone thrives in that environment, and arguably the ones who do are a little “off.”

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> It's not guaranteed, but much fewer points of failure. Can you explain where this is relevant to buffering issues? Also, you are very wrong regarding failure modes. The larger the service, the more failure modes it has. Moreover, in monoliths if a failure mode can take down/degrade the whole service, all other features are taken down/degraded. Is having a single failure mode that brings down the whole service what…

I can't, since I don't know Netflix's architecture - I was responding to "I'd love to hear exactly how a monolith application is guaranteed to perform better, with details."

> I was responding to "I'd love to hear exactly how a monolith application is guaranteed to perform better, with details."

I asked nothing about Netflix. My question was directed at your remark regarding monoliths vs microservices.

Now, can you answer the question?

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I'm sure the architecture and scale of NetFlix's operations is truly impressive, but stories like this make me further appreciate the elegant simplicity of scalability of analogue terrestrial TV, and to a similar extent, digital terrestrial TV and satellite.

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Ugh. Similar (huge) pet peeve about people who say "n.B." instead of "note".

But it's "note well", not just "note"

Not sure if you’re joking, but if not: there’s no practical difference is what is being asked of the reader. Nobody predicates any decision on whether they were asked to note something vs note it well.

It’s pointless jargon.

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