I'm an iPhone guy, but - there _are_ other designs for phones, right? The squircle corners, the shiny metal band surrounding the matte back, the aqua-pill-shaped buttons, the colors - Google is a $2T company, there's gotta be an industrial designer somewhere in the building or some process for phone design that doesn't take place in Cupertino, right?
Google Pixel 9 Pro
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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro
#852I may switch this time since they're finally offering trade-in offers here in Ireland. I like my Pixel 6, but wanted a better camera for a while (to be clear, the Pixel 6 camera is really good, especially considering the price the phone was, but I still miss things like e.g. better optical zoom), so I may get a Pixel 9 Pro. BTW, for those talking about issues: I bought my Pixel 6 at release, and yes, I had some stran…
Discounted pixel 9 pro xl by $350 by being subscribed to Google Fi.
Cheap-ish.
Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro
#853Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the beginning, smartphones were all tiny, because it was universally agreed that smaller cell phones were better. Then there was a huge, neverending push to make phones as large as possible, or larger. Sometimes smaller phones have been offered as an unpopular option, but more often "enormous" is the minimum size. And as long as that's been going on, people have been complaining that they want their phone to fit i…
16:9 is a compromise ratio for content viewing. It fits both 4:3 TV content and 2.40:1 movie content. Once 16:9 widescreen was popular media started adopting it natively https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16:9_aspect_ratio#History
> In 2011, Bennie Budler, product manager of IT products at Samsung South Africa, confirmed that monitors with a native resolution of 1920 × 1200 were not being manufactured anymore. "It is all about reducing manufacturing costs. The new 16:9 aspect ratio panels are more cost-effective to manufacture locally than the previous 16:10 panels".
> since a 16:9 is narrower than a 16:10 panel of the same length, more panels can be created per sheet of glass
This is why people complain. "We've decided to charge the same amount for a worse product" isn't a winning message.
It also does some weird editorializing:
> By July 2022, 16:9 resolutions are preferred by 77% of users (1920 × 1080 with 67%; 2560 × 1440 with 10%). [In the Steam Hardware Survey]
Steam's hardware survey, of course, doesn't even address the question of what users prefer.
Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro
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> tastefully integrating AI Tastefully integrating AI involves not uploading all of my photos and speech and text to the cloud and doing who knows what with that personal data. The majority of this data should never leave my device and that's why on-device LLMs/AI are much more tasteful.
You can control that.
Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro
#855The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…
I don't really think there's bias, it's just that HN these days predominately attracts negative ranting comments. It's not really Google specific either - if you look at any other topic, even Linux or OSS related, there's going to be bunch of highly upvoted people ranting and raving. That pushes out any kind of positive discussion and normal people leave.
I see a lot of resentment and projection in people’s comments.
And most of the time the ,comments are useless and don’t represent the general consumer/citizen opinion.
This is specially true for anonymous profiles
Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro
#856There's also the obligatory non-Pro model, and a refresh of the Pixel Fold: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9 https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9_pro_fold Usually the Pro is bigger than the non-Pro but this time they're exactly the same size, and they've added a bigger Pro XL variant. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-9,Google... The Pro and Pro XL appear to have identical specs as…
Would have been nice if they did a regular size (5.8”) for normal people and 6.8” for the genetic freaks with dinner plate hands. 6.3” is still huge. 5.8” is workable. And it’s not like there’s no precedent, the Zenfone 10 is also 5.8” and is adored for it.
Adoration alone does not pay salaries. At the end of the day the manufacturers are businesses looking to generate as large a profit as possible (some even want to build the best tech possible while doing so), so as much as any of us may adore one feature or another, the only thing that really matters is sales volume and the resulting profits.
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You don't need to put a case on phones. I've had an iPhone 11 since it came out, with no case, and quite a few drops onto hard floors. It's still fine. Obviously there's some luck involved but the only time I put a case on a (in that case, Samsung) phone it shattered the first time I dropped it. So, I figured I might as well go without again. I've yet to have an iPhone break from a fall, only from leaning up against…
You do, because now all phones have ugly camera bumps and can't lie flat on the table without a case. Why can't make phones thicker, to match the camera bumps, filling the extra space with battery, is beyond me.
Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro
#858Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are using a new modem this year but it is still Samsung rather than Qualcomm. Pixel 7 and 8 used the Samsung 5300 which wasnt very good so the new 5400 might be better but we will have to wait for reviews and what not. Google is switching from Samsung to TSMC for chip fab next gen, so the Pixel 10 might end up with a significantly better modem.
Tsmc is manufacturer, but whose design will they be using?
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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro
#859The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…
I guess mostly because the only thing new smartphones offer is faster cpu, more memory (which I don't really need, a 10y old smartphone handle my current load correctly) and a better camera and an always bigger footprint. The only thing I like is the possible better camera sensors, but that won't make me shed thousands of dollars for it. If I have the choice I'd rather have a more compact model with the camera qualit…
Which phone are you using then? I presume your usage is totally non-representative of the average normal user, but curious nonetheless.