I need to see Return of the Obra Dinn on this
Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#852Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm not even sure why you're in here arguing against it. To recap, somebody mentioned addiction, to colors presumably, as a reason to prefer a monochrome display, and I thought that was ridiculous. So I said so. People didn't react well. I've read a little part of the article. I don't much like the giant tech and social media companies. However, when I come to phrases like this: > hijacking of the human mind > hook…
Yawn. You started off calling the use of greyscale "snobbery". Just because people use something you don't, doesn't make them snobs. Maybe if you were more open and honestly questioning, you wouldn't perceive "veiled insults", which I haven't noticed so far. Nice projection, buddy. But, like I said, if you don't think it works, fine don't do. But when people explain why it works for them, don't diss them for using so…
Yes, just to reiterate: it's snobbery, I'm pretty sure. Do you think that's an insult? I could sugar-coat it: probably the snobs involved are lovely people, and I can't control their preferences. And I shouldn't have started mentioning insults, that kind of meta-comment is always a distraction. I see what I took to be a direct parody of me with "I'm the only smart one" was actually a quote from the tiresome hooks-in-your-brain article.
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#853$729, lol. Inkplate 10 is still on my want list. A 14 inch version at $729 would be of more interest than a 10 inch version which is too small to read full page PDFs. 60 hz update for e-paper is nice but imho not that valuable. I see it as a reading device not video.
Yeah - I’m old now. I need 13” and I really don’t wanna blow $2500 on a 13” iPad Pro.
You can get 12" and 14.6" Samsung tablets for under $1000. No idea whether they are good. In that size range I've always gotten laptops.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-tab-s8-ultra-14-...
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#854This is really a nice product, but I won't order it unless SolOS and its firmware and drivers are open sourced. I've probably spent far more than 8000 bucks over the years for devices like this, only to have to throw them away eventually because their software got abandoned and they've been so proprietary that they can only function as an expensive brick on the shelf. If the software is closed source, I'd recommend e…
I think you're missing out. A different perspective is to just see these devices as temporary and enjoy them for as long as they last. Let's say you can expect 2 years from the device, and it costs $480. That's $20/mo - maybe that's worth it or maybe it's not for any particular device. But at least you can make the choice that way.
That's incredibly wasteful. You can't be serious?
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#855I’m definitely interested in this - but I’m wondering about software updates.
It mentions it runs Android 13 - which was released based in 2022. Android 15 is meant to be released soon.
Do you know if it’s possible to update this to more modern Android releases? How involved is it?
Or would it be tied to the older Android release for some time?
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#856Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…
Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…
Re monitors, you might want to have a look at the Modos’s Glider[1] that was also mentioned here recently[2]? Don’t know if they support a portrait mount out of the box.
[1] https://www.crowdsupply.com/modos-tech/modos-paper-monitor
Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
#857I got to try one of these a while back and I personally have to say it's a bit generous to call them e-paper. These are more like reflective LCDs you'd see in a GameBoy. You'll notice all marketing photos of it are in either direct sunlight or have the backlight on. I compared it to my reMarkable in an indoor setting and I would honestly prefer the reMarkable's low FPS over the Daylight's low reflectivity for reading…
Thanks for this info. I was wondering if you could turn off the backlight, would it be more like the reMarkable (which I love).
In the version I tested you can adjust the backlight brightness or turn it off completely at any time, it's a bit like the reMarkable but about half as reflective (the whites are more like gray). If you turn on the backlight then it's effectively just a normal backlit tablet but with a monochrome display and night color mode.
If you're indoors without the sun shining directly at the tablet or without good lighting, in my experience you need to use the backlight for it to be usable, whereas the reMarkable is much more reflective and as easy to read as normal paper in any lighting conditions.
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#858Earlier quoted context omitted.
Elsewhere in this thread I see comments that mention "low distraction", "calmer", and something about iPhones frying kids' brains. This all looks like snobbery to me, based on the association of monochrome paper with novels and writing and intellectual pursuits. In the 18th century we were scared that novels would fry the brains of young women, but times have changed and now it's iPhones that are sinful, and monochro…
>I think I might be going off the idea of e-ink, as a result. The main benefit of e-ink isn't what you mentioned in the post, imo, it is that it is great to read with in everything from direct sunlight to darkness, which is less straining for the eyes. Having something mainly for reading is also a nice thing for us that easily get distracted away from that.
Yeah, it's still enticing me in that respect. Or even something beyond the practical: there would be a great aesthetic to it, a new kind of artistic experience, if a digital work was in full color and presented itself with reflected light, just like a book or a painting, where the white point was exactly the ambient white of a sheet of paper.
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#859Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok you are my favorite person now. Thanks
https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/comments/qjw0xo/just_got_a_das... > I think this e-ink technology will never catch on for monitors, because there is just too much lag and ghosting. I think RLCD (like the Hisense Q5), which is much more fluid and has no ghosting is the way to go. not mentioned: 3 year lifespan
Thanks for the heads up.
3 year lifespan isn’t a deal breaker for me. But ghosting of mouse cursor and refresh rate might be for existing options. Still researching but the parent post’s tech seems to solve the ghosting and refresh rate issue of traditional eink but alas they don’t have a dumb monitor product.
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#860One feedback on the webpage: it is impossible to find any spec on the device. It is pure emotion and marketing bull$hit, zero information.
If you want to copy Apple & Co on this, please remember to also bring the tech specs.
Like: Operation System, Ram, Storage, Battery Life, Format Factor, Weight, I/O.
My assumption: you have a less crappy display with a outdated compute unit, made from leftover Shenzhen parts.
Sorry, but every year hundreds of startups fail with a "big promise bad product" strategy.
It is nothing against this product, i just have trust issues if a company cannot even create a basic webpage that delivers relevant information.