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Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by lannisterstark »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #554

"You’ll also soon be able to test multimodal Meta AI on our Ray-Ban Meta smart glasses." Now this is interesting. I've been thinking for some time now that traditional computer/smartphone interfaces are on the way out for all but a few niche applications. Instead, everyone will have their own AI assistant, which you'll interact with naturally the same way as you interact with other people. Need something visual? Just…

I already have multimodal on my RB Meta Smart glasses as part of the early access. It's Hit or Miss - sometimes it works really really well,sometimes it doesn't.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by computerfriend »

resource_waste wrote: post #831
ben_w wrote: post #754

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I think the point is Silicon Valley is such a place. "Visible nipples? The defining characteristic of all mammals, which infants necessarily have to put in their mouths to feed? On this website? Your account has been banned!" Meanwhile in Berlin, topless calendars in shopping malls and spinning-cube billboards for Dildo King all over the place.

TO be fair, its one of the most popular terms people search... So, lets not pretend its something that isnt arousing.

I personally search for lots of things that aren't arousing to me.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by abxytg »

ben_w wrote: post #801
zzzzzzzzzz10 wrote: post #798

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If some unhinged psycho want to build nerve agents and bombs I think it's laughable to believe an LLM will be the tool that makes a difference in enabling them to do so. As you said the information is already out there - getting info on how to do this stuff is not the barrier you think it is.

> I think it's laughable to believe an LLM will be the tool that makes a difference If you think it's "laughable", what do you think tools are for? Every tool makes some difference, that's why they get used . The better models are already at the level of a (free) everything-intern, and it's very easy to use them for high-level control of robotics. > getting info on how to do this stuff is not the barrier you think it…

Uh oh -- we should ban this secondary school thing

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by lawlessone »

ktzar wrote: post #802
blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #136

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Llama is open weight, not open source. They don’t release all the things you need to reproduce their weights.

even if they released them, wouldn't it be prohibitively expensive to reproduce the weights?

1.3 million GPU hrs for the 8b model. Take you around 130 years to train on a desktop lol.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by butterchaos »

doctoboggan wrote: post #40

I am always excited to see these Open Weight models released, I think its very good for the ecosystem and definitely has its place in many situations. However since I use LLMs as a coding assistant (mostly via "rubber duck" debugging and new library exploration) I really don't want to use anything other than the absolutely best in class available now. That continues to be GPT4-turbo (or maybe Claude 3). Does anyone k…

Nope, I don't even see what the excitement is for.

We seem to be in denial of the scaling problems we face in that we can't even beat out the 1 year model.

I subscribed and unsubscribed to Claude 3 in about an hour. It is just not better than chatGPT4.

It is incredible to me that with all the motivation and resources of Meta, the best they can do is to produce a language model that isn't worth the time to even bother trying if a chatGPT4 subscriber.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by rdez6173 »

geepytee wrote: post #339
bbig wrote: post #4

They've got a console for it as well, https://www.meta.ai/ And announcing a lot of integration across the Meta product suite, https://about.fb.com/news/2024/04/meta-ai-assistant-built-wi... Neglected to include comparisons against GPT-4-Turbo or Claude Opus, so I guess it's far from being a frontier model. We'll see how it fares in the LLM Arena.

Also added Llama 3 70B to our coding copilot https://www.double.bot if anyone wants to try it for coding within their IDE and not just chat in the console

Double seems more like a feature than a product. I feel like Copilot could easily implement those value-adds and obsolete this product.

I also don't understand why I can't bring my own API tokens. I have API keys for OpenAI, Anthropic, and even local LLMs. I guess the "secret" is in the prompting that is being done on the user's behalf.

I appreciate the work that went into this, I just think it's not for me.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by Havoc »

eigenvalue wrote: post #231

I just want to express how grateful I am that Zuck and Yann and the rest of the Meta team have adopted an open approach and are sharing the model weights, the tokenizer, information about the training data, etc. They, more than anyone else, are responsible for the explosion of open research and improvement that has happened with things like llama.cpp that now allow you to run quite decent models locally on consumer h…

The more likely version is that this course of action is in line with strategy recommended by consultants. Takes the wind out of their competitors sail

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Post by behnamoh »

bricee98 wrote: post #778
acchow wrote: post #755

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I've never heard of this person, but many of the questions he asks Zuck show a total lack of any insight in this field. How did this interview even happen?

I actually think Dwarkesh is usually pretty good - this interview wasn’t his best (maybe he was a bit nervous because it’s Zuck?) but his show has had a lot of good conversations that get more into the weeds than other shows in my experience

He talks a bit too fast, but I kinda get the vibe that he's genuinely interested in these topics.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by lawlessone »

swatcoder wrote: post #271
jwoq9118 wrote: post #244

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The world at large seems to hate Zuck but it’s good to hear from people familiar with software engineering and who understand just how significant his contributions to open source and raising salaries have been through Facebook and now Meta.

> his contributions to ... raising salaries It's fun to be able to retire early or whatever, but driving software engineer salaries out of reach of otherwise profitable, sustainable businesses is not a good thing. That just concentrates the industry in fewer hands and makes it more dependent on fickle cash sources (investors, market expansion) often disconnected from the actual software being produced by their teams.…

>but driving software engineer salaries out of reach of otherwise profitable, sustainable businesses is not a good thing.

What if businesses paid their workers more?

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