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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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shantara wrote: post #100
alphabetting wrote: post #83

Gemini Ultra seems better on logic than GPT4. Still messing around testing but here's a prompt Ultra nailed but GPT4 completely botched: Tabitha likes cookies but not cake. She likes mutton but not lamb, and she likes okra but not squash. Following the same rule, will she like cherries or pears https://i.imgur.com/KW6gQbc.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/OSHSvLp.png

I would have never guessed the answer. With such little data available, one can invent any arbitrary rules to fit their favorite answer. It would be more impressive to practical use cases, if a LLM simply said that it's impossible to guess without inventing their own reasoning or looking up the answer online.

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by shermantanktop »

jameshart wrote: post #845
josephjrobison wrote: post #844

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The alliteration beauty of Google Gemini cannot be denied.

Only if you pronounce it with a hard G, like in GIF. Or have I been mispronouncing ‘Google’ all this time?

We all say J-oogle, but only when you're not around.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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josephjrobison wrote: post #844
crazygringo wrote: post #761

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

The alliteration beauty of Google Gemini cannot be denied.

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by BEEdwards »

crazygringo wrote: post #761
gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

Though I agree bard isn't the best name, gemini is a worse name.

Bard has connotations, but by it's self it makes one think of a person that talks well.

WTF is gemini? It is a twin, but this is a singular product. Beyond that it's just generic. It doesn't tell you what it does at all.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by glenstein »

ipsum2 wrote: post #82

In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

To add to your pros and cons:

Pro: feels like it has a lot more stylistic flourish and expressiveness than chat GPT. At least in my testing so far.

Con: maybe I'm unreasonably sensitive to design, but I find chat GPT to be very to the point in a way that makes it almost perfect as a product that puts text for an and center. By contrast I find Bard / Gemini ultra to be cluttered, and too material designy in ways that are unhelpful.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by james_marks »

BEEdwards wrote: post #854
crazygringo wrote: post #761

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff. Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constel…

Though I agree bard isn't the best name, gemini is a worse name. Bard has connotations, but by it's self it makes one think of a person that talks well. WTF is gemini? It is a twin, but this is a singular product. Beyond that it's just generic. It doesn't tell you what it does at all.

I read Gemini as twins, with the user and the AI making a pair.

Works for me.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by ionwake »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

Bard: fat inept old guy who gets by telling stories of yore

Gemini: a crypto exchange

Clearly they shouldn’t be asking the 21 year old interns what to call it.

Now before anyone in google gets butthurt like they usually do I doubt I could do much better but Gaia IMO would have been mint you know it starts with G is four letters and represents a nebulous deity. Took 3 seconds but hey I’m not paid to think. In fact I’m not paid at all

Edit> Gemini ultra is the best llm so far ( it seems) - apart from the name good job guys

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by rdsubhas »

ionwake wrote: post #858
gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

Bard: fat inept old guy who gets by telling stories of yore Gemini: a crypto exchange Clearly they shouldn’t be asking the 21 year old interns what to call it. Now before anyone in google gets butthurt like they usually do I doubt I could do much better but Gaia IMO would have been mint you know it starts with G is four letters and represents a nebulous deity. Took 3 seconds but hey I’m not paid to think. In fact I’m…

And it has ai in it's name.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by Rexxar »

cflewis wrote: post #649
gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

Gemini is Latin, my guess is it more easily translates to other languages than Bard.

Bard is latin too: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bardus#Etymology_2
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