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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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I've been making a few hobby projects that consolidate different AI services to achieve this, so I look forward to the reduced complexity and latency from all those trips. If the API is available in time (halloween), my multi-modal talking skeleton head with an ESP32 camera that makes snarky comments about your costume just got slightly easier on the software side.

Would love to see the final project - my email is in the bio.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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> The only downside is that it now make me feel bad that I'm not doing anything with it yet. If that's the only downside that you see... I guess enhanced phishing/impersonation and all the blackhat stuff that come with it don't count. I for one already miss the time where companies had support teams made of actual people.

I would love if helpdesks moved to ChatGPT. Phone support these days is based off of a rigid script that is around as helpful as a 2000s chatbot. For example, the other day I was talking to AT&T support, and the lady asked me what version of Windows I was running. I said, I'm running Ubuntu. She repeated the question. I said I'm not running Windows, it's Linux. She repeated the question. I asked why it mattered for m…

Well, I didn't say that support today is always good. But by construction ChatGPT will never be able to answer a question that was not written down and trained (unless it hallucinates it, and many times the answer will be completely wrong).

I can read the website, I don't need a fake person to give me the information available on the website. When I contact support, it's because I need to talk to a human.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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> The only downside is that it now make me feel bad that I'm not doing anything with it yet. If that's the only downside that you see... I guess enhanced phishing/impersonation and all the blackhat stuff that come with it don't count. I for one already miss the time where companies had support teams made of actual people.

I work as a ethical hacker, so I'm well aware of the phishing and impersonation possibilities. But the net positive is so, so much bigger for society that I'm sure we'll figure it out. And yes, in 20 years you can tell your kids that 'back in my day' support consisted of real people. But truthfully, as someone who worked on a ISP helpdesk it's much better for society if these people move on to more productive areas.

I find this very interesting. If you work as an ethical hacker, I believe you see the blackhat potential there.

But you don't see the positive, you just have faith. That's beautiful in a way, but dangerous too. Just like the common idea that "I have faith that somebody will find a technological solution to climate change". When the risk is that high, I think we should take a step back and don't bet our survival on faith.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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We should be fine as long as it doesn't move. Jokes aside, I have paused my subscription because even GPT4 seemed to become dumber at tasks to the point that I barely used it, but the constant influx of new features is tempting me to renew it just to check them out...

I read this all the time and yet no one can seem to come up with even a few questions from several months ago that ChatGPT has become “worse” at. You would think if this is happening it would be very easy to produce such evidence since chat history of all conversations is stored by default.

One example: it now refuses to summarise books that it trained on. Soon after trying GPT-4 I could get it to summarise Evans DDD chapter by chapter. Not anymore.

Not a surprise, but a change nonetheless.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Perplexity has gone downhill a lot since its initial rollout. Anecdotally, from my experience as a non-paying user of the service.

give vello.ai a try

vello.ai is very, very slow. I used it for web searching but waiting (sometimes) more than 30 seconds for a simple queries is unacceptable

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Everytime it’s mentioned someone says this and other users provide examples. Maybe you just don’t care about those examples

Care to share these examples, in a scientific (n > 30) manner that can’t just be attributed to model nondeterminism? I don’t follow these threads religiously but in the ones I’ve seen no one has been able to provide any sort of convincing evidence. I’m not some sort of OpenAI apologist, so if there is actual good provable evidence here I will easily change my mind about it

I don't see how anyone could provide what you are asking for. I can go through my chat history and find a prompt that got a better answer 3 months ago than I get now, but you can always just say it's nondeterminism.

Without access to the old model, I can't collect samples with n > 1

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Can you share the source code? What did you do to improve the latency?

Lots of work around speculative decoding, optimizing across the ASR->LLM->TTS interfaces, fine-tuning smaller models while maintaining accuracy (lots of investment here), good old fashioned engineering around managing requests to the GPU, etc. We're considering commercializing this so I can't open source just yet, but if we end up not selling it I'll definitely think about opening it up.

Can you at least share the stack that you're using in building this? What kind of business model are you considering in commercializing it?

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Here's a specific example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37533417

Pointing out a specific bug with functionality is not the same as saying “in general the quality of GPT answers has decreased over X months” especially when that bug is in a realm that LLM’s have already been provably bad at.

You're moving the goalposts.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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It’s just a hiring article.

Hiring to produce more demos, to hire more to produce even more demos...

As long as they choose not to work elsewhere, it seems effective for Google.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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The issue is far more serious with ChatGPT/similar models because things that are laughably untrue are delivered exactly the same as something that's solidly true. When doing a normal search I can make some assessment on the quality of the source and the likelihood the source is wrong. People should be able "throw the ideas away if they turn out to be wrong" but the problem is these ideas unconsciously or not help bu…

> Once you find out something isn't true it's hard to unpick your mental model of the world. Intuitively, I would think the same, but a book about education research that I read and my own experience taught me that new information is surprisingly easy to unlearn. It’s probably because new information sits at the edges of your neural networks and do not yet provide a foundation for other knowledge. This will only happ…

That presumes the wrong information is corrected quickly. What about the cases when that doesn't happen? Aren't you often finding out things you thought were true from years ago are wrong?
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