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I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

Unfortunately for those who idolised Elon, their world view is beginning to crumble. His actions are not justifiable. The way he treats people, the way he rules his companies, the way he governs his new "free speech" platform. The man is a tyrant. He's idolised for the things he's achieved but if he had not achieved them would he be given the same benefit of the doubt? Hypocrisy. The way people treat this man versus…

We saw this writ large with the evangelical support for Donald Trump. It's crystal clear that DT is a huge "family values" hypocrite, yet he's seen to be a global change agent (of God, no less), so that justifies their uncritical support.

It's no different with Musk. His work with SpaceX and Tesla are seen as worthy goals at the whole-of-humanity scale, so that justifies (in some people's eyes) glossing over any character defects.

It was similar with Steve Jobs, a reputed workplace bully and tyrant.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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He's ... somewhat said as much: https://mas.to/@paulg/109536542792559441 >

Didn’t see that but just saw the top voted comment here and yeah def feel like I called it haha :)

Decision's been made for him: https://archive.vn/ucUdh>

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Seem crazy to leave Twitter to me. Elon's takeover of Twitter is one of the most significant periods in Internet history. It's a great show. It's an education in how not to do things. It's a thrill ride. You get a front row seat for the show if you're on the platform. I would have thought Paul Graham would want to be there because of all this.

Just because he won't post on Twitter doesn't mean he won't go on Twitter at all.

That's not leaving.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Do people on HN still believe Elon isn't destroying Twitter?

The bustiest times twitter has ever been have all been after he bought it, if you believe him.

And he's so controversial - even here - that all he has to do is keep fiddling with it and people flock to the circus with popcorn.

What evidence does anyone have that it's being destroyed? What are the metrics for any social media site being destroyed?

Thinking about myspace and digg - it seemed to be loss of user base. Does anyone have metrics independent of Musk/twitter insiders that it's losing users? Seems like https://alexa.com/ is dead...

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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This is his Mastodon account: https://mas.to/@paulg/with_replies His first toots remind me of his first tweets: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22300310058 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22307238459

First time I’m using Mastodon, and it’s incredibly slow. Is the app any faster than the web app?

Mastodon servers are self-hosted by various groups or individuals so they aren't designed to be as scalable as Twitter. Today's events caused a large influx to pretty much every prominent server. A few ones I follow have announced they are either going down for maintenance or upgrading their servers already.

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There’s another exodus of twitter users, and most servers are run by individuals, give them time or run your own instance and federate

> There’s another exodus of twitter users, and most servers are run by individuals Again, Expecting non-techies to self-host their own instances after several of them falling over due to light usage and signups is quite wishful thinking and reiterates the need for users to heavily rely on more centralized instances to on board users. Well all know what happened to mastodon.technology which was run by an individual. I…

Decentrialized network doesn't mean every node is equal in size. Natural user behaviour will still aggregate onto a few larger servers. That's completely normal.

Mastodon wasn't meant to be a 100% replica of Twitter nor has it ever attempted to be. The only reason it's getting such a rapid influx of users is because of Elon's sabotage.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Wow, Twitter is collapsing much faster than I expected. With PG and some other high-profile accounts gone, many will loose interest in their Twitter feed fast. Rinse and repeat.

I thought it'd collapse on the tech side before the policy side. Rather shocked the mask has come off this quickly on what "free speech" actually meant.

It's a testament to the work created by their amazing infra team (now mostly gone) to have the platform on autopilot for so long.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

OK, but to be fair[1], that's what we want, right? Our thought leaders should change their minds when they turn out to have been wrong, and correct. pg is doing good here, and that needs to be celebrated and not mocked. We all get stuff mixed up. [1] And for the record I think pg indeed ignored WAY too many red flags for WAY too long in this particular case.

It looks to me like he might still be ignoring those red flags. Like I said elsewhere, PG can be an inspiration and still be wrong about a whole bunch of things.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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> banning of links to Mastodon I’d like to point out that this is what everyone says is happening, but actually that’s not what’s happening. Twitter allows linking to other social networks as long as that’s not the only thing you do. Twitter is suspending accounts which were made sorely for linking to another network. (The mastodon account was only used for promoting mastodon’s alternative social network). Here is a…

If you try to post a link to a mastodon profile, it will fail. Old links will bring up a "this site may be harmful" interstitial. Most large instances seem affected.

I only tested insta, which worked fine for me.

Also, it looks like you can trash my post above, Graham got suspended. I really did not expect this.

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