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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by below43 »

drewda wrote: post #813
celso wrote: post #791

If you interested in Cloudflare's Email Routing https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/ we're mass enabling the zones that have asked for Beta access and will be going GA soon. Email me at celso@cf if you can't wait; we'll try to prioritize.

This is a very interesting option for handling incoming email from a personal domain or two (especially since it's from an established company, rather than a random individuals's email forwarding service :) Does Cloudflare have any options for handling outgoing email? If not, I assume you still have to set up your actual email host in a way that can send through all the vanity domains, with appropriate DKIM records,…

If you were to use free Gmail, this allows you to send via other email addresses (so you could forward youremail@yourdomain.com to your Gmail and send emails as coming from that email address). See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en

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Post by Macha »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #824
pkrumins wrote: post #794

Does anyone know if this applies to Gmail for domains as well?

I don't think there is such a thing called "gmail for domains". If you have gmail at a custom domain, you aren't paying anything for it, and you've had it for 10 years or more like that... this is probably talking about you, yes. The thing some of us have had for 10 years or more has been called different things at different points in Google history. Including "Google Apps For Your Domain" and "G-Suite" and "Google W…

There was briefly a seperate Gmail for Domains that was rolled into what was then Google Apps For Your Domain.

There's also the possibility that you've registered a regular google account at a non-google domain.

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Post by vorpalhex »

jacquesm wrote: post #836

So, we enter the brave new world of extortion for data held hostage. Cool. I wonder if Google has factored in what this will do to their brand image, the cost in the longer term will likely far outstrip the savings and the resulting income from sign ups.

This is why I have a nightly cron that backs up from my cloud services. Unfortunately Google (and many others) only allow Takeout with a cap of 1 or 2 a year and it is frustratingly manual.

I only trust SaaS products when I know I have an alternative and can exfiltrate my data.

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Post by Sanzig »

bgidley wrote: post #790

If you want to keep the google accounts working for things that free (photos, YouTube etc) you can switch first to the business essentials plan and then to the cloud identity plan. Then you can move the email elsewhere but the google accounts still work. This was essential for me as I used g suite for my family and some are using it for photos.

Thanks! I was wondering if there was a way to do this. I don't really need calendar on a personal account, and for email I was thinking about shuffling over to somewhere else anyway.

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Post by slivanes »

MarkusWandel wrote: post #785

I have four active email users in my free "legacy edition" vanity domain workspace. I am not willing to pay USD4x6x12 per year to have this continue to work. Looking around for the most affordable alternative for four active email accounts brings me to... Microsoft! Microsoft 365 Family Edition. Like a lot of salary drones I use Microsoft products at work, so I get a discount. It is sad to be paying for full Microsof…

I've given this some serious thought and I'm considering using Cloudflare Email Forwarding [https://www.cloudflare.com/apps/email-forwarding].

This will allow one to continue to collect usual emails/mailinglists, albeit forwarded to your other personal gmail (for example) account.

The only downside I see is that replies to any emails will originate from the redirected email address.

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Post by anticensor »

jimmies wrote: post #465
usuallymatt wrote: post #460

Not sure if anyone has seen this but if I login as @gmail.com with my @ password it logs me into my Domain account. I wonder if they are preparing to roll out a tool where you can convert your Domain account over to a gmail account.

Can you elaborate on that? Let's say I'm foo@bar.com, what username could I give to gmail?

foobarcom@gmail.com ?

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Post by mdasen »

MarkusWandel wrote: post #785

I have four active email users in my free "legacy edition" vanity domain workspace. I am not willing to pay USD4x6x12 per year to have this continue to work. Looking around for the most affordable alternative for four active email accounts brings me to... Microsoft! Microsoft 365 Family Edition. Like a lot of salary drones I use Microsoft products at work, so I get a discount. It is sad to be paying for full Microsof…

Apple's iCloud+ is cheaper. I pay $1/mo ($12/year) and that covers a few domains and a handful of email addresses with 50GB of storage. $3/mo ($36/year) will get you 200GB of storage and a family plan that lets you set up different accounts with different logins.

I think Microsoft 365 is a great value if you're looking for everything it offers - it includes Office, 1TB of storage per user, etc. Oh, one downside of Microsoft 365's custom domain email is that you have to use GoDaddy as your registrar: "Domain sold separately. You must maintain an active domain with GoDaddy to use this feature" (https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/p/microsoft-36...). So if you're using Cloudflare and paying $7.85 for a .com and need to move it to GoDaddy at $18.99, that's another $11.14/year, $0.93/month to use Microsoft 365.

I moved my email over to iCloud+ and I've been happy. It was easy to set up and pretty cheap at just a dollar.

Zoho is another option. $1/mo per user with 5GB of storage. It's less storage than iCloud+ and more money (and it's annual billing, not monthly), but you might like it better. Zoho also has a free plan that doesn't include IMAP access (and lets you use custom domains).

Note, these prices are USD. iCloud+ is $1.29 CAD for 50GB and $3.99 CAD for 200GB.

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Post by notatoad »

eco wrote: post #841

I would have no problems with this if Google just provided a way to convert GSuite accounts into personal Google accounts. In fact, I'd prefer to pay if it means no ads/data gathering in GMail. I've lived in this obnoxious state for a long time where my Google account (with an email address that is nearly as old as Google itself so I'm not switching) sometimes works, sometimes doesn't (and even sometimes works then s…

park your vanity domain on some provider that gives you free or cheap email forwarding. (cloudflare is promoting their offering at the top of this thread)

make a plain old google account with a new address. forward your old address to the new one. then set the old address as the send address in your new gmail account. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en

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Post by planetjones »

Anyone got any experience and tips for migrating a lot gmail e-Mails to iCloud mail? I pay for the 2TB plan with iCloud and I don’t want to pay Google for custom email addresses for all of my family. iCloud mail allows a custom domain now so that’s my migration plan.
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