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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by azth »

gorwell wrote: post #383

This is another example of how the ruling class is trying to reassert control over the narrative and flow of information. Flag dissent as `misinformation`, remove comments, remove dislikes. Bit by bit, clamping down on the ability for the public to revolt.

Hey man, are you against creating a "safe space"? You must be one of those non-inclusive racist people. /s

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by [deleted] »

radlad wrote: post #762
simias wrote: post #734

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always found this information rather useless myself, so I don't see it as a huge deal. More often that not when I see a video with tons of dislike it's because it's been brigaded by an adversarial community and not really an indicator of the value of the content. In my experience it's more of a "controversial opinion" indicator than a "bad video" indicator. >There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds tha…

I'm not sure. Reddit, Hacker News, etc. all offer ways for content to be downvoted. This allows for user moderation, which has pros and cons, but seems to work better against disinformation than platforms like Facebook which only allow "likes."

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by dntrkv »

inChargeOfIT wrote: post #647

This will make the site useless for finding new content and content creators. And what's the point of a Like count without a Dislike count? I'll just assume every video has as many, if not more, dislikes and will turn to other sources for finding quality content (if at all). And they might as well get rid of the comments section too cause that's where people will voice their opinions.. but maybe that's part of the pl…

HN doesn't show dislikes and it manages to surface content better than the vast majority of aggregators and forums out there. Subreddits that remove the dislike function have much better content and levels of discourse.

Removing dislikes (hiding them being step one) seems to be one of the better ways to improve the quality of content and commentary. Just for the fact that it removes the ability of a single group to brigade any content/creator they dislike or disagree with.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by mgr86 »

sircastor wrote: post #838
invalidusernam3 wrote: post #570

Whether this is good for creators is one thing, but it's definitely bad for viewers. Likes to dislikes is an indicator of the quality of the video, and how well it matches the title/description. This will fundamentally change what I use YouTube for. If I can't determine the quality of a video without having to waste time watching it, I will just look somewhere else.

I feel completely opposite about this. I have never (and I mean never) viewed the dislikes as an indicator of the quality of the video, or it’s content. It’s only ever been a number that some arbitrary set of people have incremented. To me the video’s quality is self evident, pretty quickly.

Have you ever done a DIY project around the house? There is a lot of trash out there, and the dislike to like ratio is a great way to quickly parse out the crap without 1) reading bottom barrel youtube comments or 2) watching 22 minutes of nonsense at 1.75x speed.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by chelical »

darth_avocado wrote: post #625
nickjj wrote: post #67

Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…

> I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching You summarized why Youtube is doing it. Sure harassment is one aspect of it, but this drives up the clicks for Youtube and therefore the ad revenue. I'd be curious to see if people get overly annoyed by how many unworthy videos they watch and thereby reducing overall engagement.

Without the like vs dislike ratio, I'm less likely to use Youtube. I'm already using Bing and Google to search for videos b/c they absolutely botched their search experience.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by muzani »

grej wrote: post #833

There is a video on YouTube in which YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki received the Free Expression Award (which were sponsored by YouTube). At the time of the check I just did, that video currently has 227 upvotes and over 56,000 downvotes, making it the worst ratio’ed video on YouTube I have ever seen. That incident may have played a role in this decision.

> wins Free Expression Award

> gets downvoted

> removes downvote button

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