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Jews and Israelis are obviously not the same thing (even though the connection between them is very strong) but the reason you are not allowed to criticise _Israel_ in the US is that _Jews_ have a great amount of power there (hugely disproportionate to their population size).
Is this statement a joke?
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Well that would be too much to ask I think, those are natural mechanisms and typically not harmful. I think positions like these are needed because there are severe forms of discrimination, hate, exclusion based on ethnicity, gender and so on.
Arguably, they're more about the "typically not harmful" things than about the severe cases. The severe cases are bad, but they're also obvious. Your ordinary management should be able to handle that. They often don't, and it helps to have a special level of appeal when the chain of management fails, but that's not the real reason for the job. The real reason is that those "typically not harmful" cases are cumulative…
Now you’re talking about discrimination. Those can appear mild and harmless in single instances, but the accumulation is the problem as you said but also what we could call passive ignorance. In my experience people are often not even aware of being discriminatory, some are even well meaning, but are patronizing.
But there is a key difference in a spectrum of bias/prejudice and flat out not reflecting on our behavior.
I realize I‘m discussing semantics here, just wanted to explain how I understand those terms in my response.
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The wise enough to not use their real name will survive. The culling of the real name begins. This is the literal killing of the 'you have nothing to hide' meme that goes to show you have something to hide.
I am still baffled by the use of Real Names online.. As a late 70's child that got the internet when I was in my late teens it was unthinkable at that time to give anyone any personal info about you online. "Stranger Danger" and everyone online should be thought of as an axe murder was the dominant position I am not sure when or why this shift happen to where it was common for people to not only post their full perso…
* https://www.npr.org/2011/09/28/140879480/who-are-you-really-...
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> You'd think that the global head of diversity would know the difference between Jews and Zionist. AFAIK, he wasn't “global head of diversity” for any organization when he wrote it, but only many years later. That’s not to say that being able to distinguish between Jews, Zionists, Israelis, and the Israeli government isn’t basic threshold knowledge that should be expected of anyone publicly commenting on Israeli pol…
>AFAIK, he wasn't “global head of diversity” for any organization when he wrote it, but only many years later. He was literally a founding senior director for "equity in computing" at Georgia Tech and was a national strategy advisor to the Obama administration for bringing "equity and justice" to STEM (when he wrote this blog post). Please update your post as you're spreading FUD. >AFAIK, he wasn't “global head of di…
Obama was in Office 2007?
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And if there was a referendum: "Political correctness should be dismantled", I guess most people would vote "Hell yeah!". So much for democracy.
I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting 'political correctness' - a relatively new term and phenomenon largely enabled by the internet - was something installed by society and is a good thing, and that a vote to 'dismantle' it would be a bad thing?
It's an old term, and has been used in it's current form since the 1970's. I remember it's usage in media in the 80s, before the commercial internet.
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“Most women in the Bay Area are soft and weak, cosseted and naive despite their claims of worldliness, and generally full of shit. They have their self-regarding entitlement feminism, and ceaselessly vaunt their independence, but the reality is, come the epidemic plague or foreign invasion, they’d become precisely the sort of useless baggage you’d trade for a box of shotgun shells or a jerry can of diesel.” “PMMess,…
Out of context excerpts from a 500 page book written in the style of Hunter S. Thompson is not compelling evidence to anyone but the mob and those seeking to be offended. People who have actually read the book don't find them to be so problematic, including the reviewers at New York Times, NPR, Washington Post, Techcrunch and others who gave the book a big thumbs up.
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> If I were a Jew I would be concerned about my insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of myself. This is the only line in the blog post that can be construed as antisemitic rather than a criticism of Israel. It would not be antisemitic if he had stated the opinion: "Israel has an insatiable appetite for war and killing in defense of itself." I used to be involved in the Palestine Liberation movement and…
"Why were you fired?" "I used the wrong word once in a deleted personal blog post from 14 years ago."
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"people should stop using accusations of bigotry as a weapon to silence people" Huh? Are you seriously calling someones words who feels victimized, a weapon? Are you seriously holding fear of actual violence to an unsubstantiated standard? "If you want to call someone a bigot, its pretty important to make sure you are right about it." Please show me one other form of bigotry accusation you hold to the same standard.…
>Huh? Are you seriously calling someones words who feels victimized, a weapon? Are you seriously holding fear of actual violence to an unsubstantiated standard? The idea of figuratively describing something as a weapon isn't new or unusual. I'm not even sure what you mean by the second sentence. I was talking about people defaulting to claims of bigotry at any sign of criticism. If every criticism of Israel, even leg…
The idea that antisemitism is used to silence criticism of Israel is meant to do exactly that, victim shame them into silence - its an outrageous accusation without any factual basis.
I don't know anyone that defaults that way about every criticism of Israel...but there are many types of critiques that are clearly antisemitic - for example blaming Jews or even Israelies collectively for their governments actions - or holding Israel to a standard you dont hold anyone else to or leveling criticism at Israel with no attempt to even get the facts on the ground correct.
Can a claim of antisemitism be taken at face value without accusing the victim of weaponizing it to silence criticism of Israel?
Why are you looking for reasons to dismiss accusations of anti semitism?
Why isn't your default compassion and understanding?
I feel like with "Jew" in the excerpt he means Israeli, which is more like a political view. Basically saying if you support Israel you have an insatiable appetite for war. And honestly there always is some vagueness regarding the word jew, it can refer to religion, race, sometimes an ideology or a country.
It could be a racist comment though, but I think it's good to give people the opportunity to clarify rather than chace any utterance they make. No one can express themselves with exactitude Everytime they speak or write a blog, it wasn't a book.
I think there are a few noteworthy components to this: * Kamau's post conflates Jews with Israel, which is simultaneously a common, innocent mistake and a rhetorical strategy used by Zionists and the far right. Having read the actual post[1], I'm inclined to believe that Kamau falls for the aforementioned strategy. * One of the Twitter accounts linked in the article, "StopAntisemitism," is a Zionist organization. The…
But let's not pretend that the connection between Israel and US Jews is simply a prejudice. Here's an article from the Times of Israel quoting a recent Pew research:
"More than 80% of American Jews said caring about Israel was an important or essential part of what being Jewish means to them." [1]
If this is how important is Israel to American Jews identity ("important or essential part of what being Jewish means to them") then it makes sense to ask them, as a group, how do they reconcile this identity with the violent actions of Israel.
[1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-gaza-conflict-escalates-her...